Scooter boy
On that google page I gave earlier:Originally Posted by Usarka
The 250 Rebel doesn't have an oil filter. It has an oil screen. The screen doesn't have to be cleaned until you do major engine repair.
Just change your crankcase oil often, as per the suggestion of your owners manual
IT doesn't have an oil filter and all you have to do is drain the oil and put new one. The bike has 8,000 miles on the clock so it's almost new.
Scooter boy
I took two bikes and on both of them there was 90 min labor.
Also, on the invoice there was stated: "The VT250 could benefit from a full service". So nothing except the oil was done.
Maybe they are really slow and it takes them 90 minutes to change the oil for non-technical (or computer guys like me) people.
Scooter boy
Just as a note, I don't argue the 90 minutes for the labor.
I argue the fact that they tried to charge for a change of a non existent oil filter. And their admittance of doing so by "thinking it had one".
Forum whore
I do a FULL service on a late model European car for a labour charge of 1.5 hours & theres some fat in that too.
Scooter boy
If you also do warrant of fittness, I'll gladly visit Tauranga for the day
Oh, and if I have a 97 japanese car it's a bit cheaper I assume?
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personally i'd be more concerned about the 90mins for labour, the $10 for the filter is proabably just a standard charge on all oil changes, as almost all bikes do have one.
could catch a monkey
Motorcycle oil is generally more expensive than car oil - for some reason, so I don't think that's a good comparison. Plus the way some of these guys drain car oil (i.e. quickly, before it's all drained) I wouldn't dream of doing to a bike.What can I say, just moved to Auckland. I used to pay in Wellington $40 for a change of oil (including the oil!) for my car (2.5L Honda inspire - for sale btw)
Imagine my surprise here jumping from $40 for a car to $150 for a bike.
I would suspect that it's a standard charge and that the person raising the invoice probably didn't do the spanner spinning.
"Oil - X litres @ $X"
"Filter - 1 @ $X"
"Spark plugs (for example) - 4 @ $X"
I'd suggest that more bikes would have a filter than wouldn't.
Go buy the tools and do it yourself - it'll probably pay for itself after one or two changes.
parting of the sensory
I suspect that they don't actually record how long an oil change takes - just have a standard 90 minute charge for it. You can guarantee that as soon as they've got the drain bolt out, they're going to leave the bike and go and do something else, not stand there waiting for it to drain. It'd be fair enough if the "something else" was checking the rest of the bike over, lubing and adjusting whatever needed doing, but it probably wasn't.
Look, for the cost of 180 minutes of labour, and the markup on the oil, you could easily buy yourself the tools you need to do it yourself next time. Two sockets (assuming the bikes have different sump plugs), a socket wrench handle, an oil filter wrench (assuming you can't do it with your hand, which is what I do), a drain pan, and some rags and you're set.You will even have some money left over for congratulatory beers. If you want to get a bit fancier, a funnel for a couple of bucks (or make one from the neck of a softdrink bottle), some disposable latex gloves for a few shekels, and some brake cleaner to make sure the oil on your zorst is all cleaned off.
Even buying unnecessarily expensive oil, my oil changes cost less than $100 (filter is less than $20, oil ranges from $35 to $100, depending on what you buy. Usually, it doesn't take a full pack, so after three or four changes there's enough that you don't need to buy oil for the next one).
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
yes Sir!
If one had to remove fairings, do the change, and replace fairings it may take an hour...1 and a half hours to change the oil
3L of oil (for a gsxr 750) costs about 38 - 45 bux.
filter 20 odd.
Hardcore Biker
Too be fair the guy that did the invoice might not himself know jack shit. That said though, he should be working off a jobsheet and not charging for things that weren't actually used.
Given that he says he spoke to them and they re-invoiced removing the filter... I would say yes.
No - motorcycles.
Pretty good scam, eh...1 and a half hours to change the oil
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Sir Cumference
The practice of padding out accounts with "liitle extras" is fairly widespread in the motor industry.
Most accounts for the service of one of our cars will invariably have something like "Bars Bugs - $5.00" on the bill, when I know damn well that they haven't used any.
They work on the basis that very few people will query such small amounts - and that includes me most of the time.
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Forum whore
Yeah this sort of stuff happens.
I've noticed that 9 times out of 10, bike shops can and will screw you for stuff like this, unless you know them really well (i.e. bring a lot of business, or bought a bike from them).
Alternatively go have a bitch about it. I once took a friend with me that's good at bitching, and reduced the cost of the job from $400 to about $280.
I do everything I can at home. Things such as carb balancing, tyre changes, checking valve clearences (stuff I don't have tools for) are done RELUCTANTLY at bike shops.
I've even had an event where a certain bike shop forgot to put a rear wheel spacer back in after a tyre change. The guy came running out of the shop as I was about to shoot off for my 20 minute motorway journey home. God knows what would have happened if he hadn't caught me on time.
If I had the time or the inclination I'd do everything myself. But most times it's simply not practical.
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Thats why I DIY everything, and If they try that shit with the parts I get off them then I go somewhere else, international shipping is a wonderful thing!
Hardcore Biker
In which case they're probably screwing you on an even larger scale...
Basically, you're saying you have prove your loyalty to the shop before you get treated honestly...
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Forum whore
Yes. And why should I have to? If they treat me like shit and rip me off, I'll go elsewhere. If they treat me well, I will come back and recommend their place to others who got screwed by other shops.
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