Mining and Labour trying to fuck it

[Tank]

from RedAlert - being the ramblings of the left:

Don’t waste your yen yuan or $US
Posted by Trevor Mallard on March 23rd, 2010
Any mines opened under changes that John Key is proposing will be closed by the next Labour led government.

There will not be compensation for mining companies.

So international (or local) mining companies – don’t waste your money.



Way to go Mallard - a total area of 2.2 x 2.2 km over the entire of NZ - bringing in (what was it - 180 Billion) and you guys pander to the tree huggers.

Lets see you sell this at election time - when you have to raise taxes, and increase borrowing.

You really are a idiot.

[Ixion]

QWell, that's rathr silly. Much more sensible would have been to warn that any mines opened etc would be nationalised without compensation .

Then a NZ government could decide to keep them open or close them (depending on how worthwile they were , in terms of value actually remaining in NZ). And then, if they did decide to keep them open, the profits would remain in NZ.

[Mully]

Then a NZ government could decide to keep them open or close them (depending on how worthwile they were , in terms of value actually remaining in NZ). And then, if they did decide to keep them open, the profits would remain in NZ.

Now, that's an idea.

Bling duly blung.

[golfmade]

Not necessarily a bad thing that foreign companies can't go in to mine, although saying no mining what so ever is a bit extreme.

[peasea]

You really are a idiot.

It's 'an idiot'.

Idiot.

You're right though, fuckin' tree huggers, they're all queer fucks.

[Tank]

It's 'an idiot'.

Idiot.

You're right though, fuckin' tree huggers, they're all queer fucks.

doh - I cant help it - its my accent - I keep dropping my N's

[avgas]

I dunno.
I grew up around mining - and I think that while the mining is not a bad thing.........my great grandkids have every right to kick me in the nuts if the country has impassable areas due to tailings dams infecting the place (FYI don't walk in certain parts of Coro, or drink the water).
Likewise areas will collapse due to de-watering.
While I don't hug tree's, I would hope that NZ's "common sense" is a little better than US and Aussie. Yes, science and engineering exists so these problems don't happen.....no, gold mine co's don't pay for anything more than they are required.
But if it did happen, I would not go to the streets to protest, nor will I feel that employees of such companies are the devil. Just a little part of me inside would die.

[Jonno.]

LOL at people who think New Zealand's image will be tarnished.

[SPman]

from RedAlert - being the ramblings of the left:

Don’t waste your yen yuan or $US
Posted by Trevor Mallard on March 23rd, 2010
Any mines opened under changes that John Key is proposing will be closed by the next Labour led government.

There will not be compensation for mining companies.

So international (or local) mining companies – don’t waste your money.



Way to go Mallard - a total area of 2.2 x 2.2 km over the entire of NZ - bringing in (what was it - 180 Billion) and you guys pander to the tree huggers.

You really are a idiot.

Bringing in how much?

The $160 billion quoted is a figure pulled out of his arse.....errr, the air by a mining rep as an estimate - all surveys so far show about $3bill of assets, of which the government get fuck all anyway - around $300 mill! The royalties aren't very high. That's when they aren't subsidising the mining companies to find something!

How about opening up areas OUTSIDE national parks for mining exploration!

You really are a idiot.

[Tank]

Bringing in how much?

The $160 billion quoted is a figure pulled out of his arse.....errr, the air by a mining rep as an estimate - all surveys so far show about $3bill of assets, of which the government get fuck all anyway - around $300 mill! The royalties aren't very high. That's when they aren't subsidising the mining companies to find something!

How about opening up areas OUTSIDE national parks for mining exploration!

You really are a idiot.

It's 'an idiot'.

Idiot.

[peasea]

doh - I cant help it - its my accent - I keep dropping my N's

Like GN's and shit like that? You should be more careful.

[freedom-wedge]

I dunno.
I grew up around mining - and I think that while the mining is not a bad thing.........my great grandkids have every right to kick me in the nuts if the country has impassable areas due to tailings dams infecting the place (FYI don't walk in certain parts of Coro, or drink the water).
Likewise areas will collapse due to de-watering.
While I don't hug tree's, I would hope that NZ's "common sense" is a little better than US and Aussie. Yes, science and engineering exists so these problems don't happen.....no, gold mine co's don't pay for anything more than they are required.
But if it did happen, I would not go to the streets to protest, nor will I feel that employees of such companies are the devil. Just a little part of me inside would die.

Not a tree hugger either, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye, we wont do as well as we might think out of this either, only a few will benefit, I think that the protests coming might surprise you all. Heres a thought, they might reduce ACC levies on us so that we don’t join the tree huggers and swell their numbers. Keep watching I think we could learn somthing about making a government sit up and take notice.

pedro

[Crasherfromwayback]

You're right though, fuckin' tree huggers, they're all queer fucks.

Damn straight. They killed off the Two Strokes.

[Blackbird]

I dunno.
(FYI don't walk in certain parts of Coro, or drink the water).

Agreed - there are old mine shafts within a few hundred metres of our house and sticking to the established bush paths is a sensible precaution if you don't want to vanish without trace. There's no doubt that the old extraction techniques damaged the environment but modern mining techniques have a much lower environmental footprint. There's some fantastic restorative work going on in the southern Coromandel too which doesn't hit the headlines because it's not sensationalistl. Trouble is, it's almost impossible to get a balanced view as opposing parties both have rabid (and not entirely truthful) views. Living in the Coromandel, I'm not opposed to mining PROVIDED it's done in a strictly controlled manner. Simply leaving riches in the ground if they can be extracted with minimal environmental impact doesn't make economic sense.

[peasea]

Damn straight. They killed off the Two Strokes.

And look what they did to muscle cars!
Bastards...