Will NZ open doors to SAFAS?

[Urano]

mmhhh...
not sure to have understood.... "safas" ??? who are them? the south africans whites, did i get right?
i've heard there are big problems with black making violence to have farms and whites continuing with apartheid conceptions...
i don't have enough informations to understand who's right, but at the moment i'm not so interested, more focused on problems nearer to my life....
what i can say is that it was a pity not being able to use the end of a bad story to build up a new way of living togheter, but probably i'm just too idealistic.

but the question is: why should this concern to nz? it does not concern to italy neither, so why you?

I hope you are not attempting to put NZ into the "1st World" category. Please have more respect for our 3rd world Banana Republic.

woaaa, hold your words. "banana republics society" has recently been closed to new admittance: italy has taken all the places available...

Many people arrive here as a second choice. They then spend the time getting the citizenship and then straight off to Oz. Perhaps another part of the political reason behind the scenes for "NZ becoming a state of Australia"?

what? this is funny... there are people coming there and then going to australia takin advantage of your travel agreements? what a stupid thing to do...
australia... bah... what a common place...

[oldrider]

im with them, i dont want to live near fucken maori either.....good job there is fuck all of them in dunedin

Have you ever wandered through the "student" area streets of Dunedin lately?

They are a fucking disgrace and some wonder what's wrong with our leaders who come through this squalor!

They are nothing more than a mob of pigs IMHO! Third world here we come!

[mashman]

mmhhh...
not sure to have understood.... "safas" ??? who are them? the south africans whites, did i get right?
i've heard there are big problems with black making violence to have farms and whites continuing with apartheid conceptions...
i don't have enough informations to understand who's right, but at the moment i'm not so interested, more focused on problems nearer to my life....
what i can say is that it was a pity not being able to use the end of a bad story to build up a new way of living togheter, but probably i'm just too idealistic.

but the question is: why should this concern to nz? it does not concern to italy neither, so why you?

For me SAFAS are all South Africans... there may well be a different meaning, but that's my understanding.

As mentioned elsewhere, it should concern the world as a whole... The famines and warms have been going for as long as I can remember and noone has done a damn thing about it other than throw aid and money at the country... The money and aid doesn't seem to have made a blind bit of difference in the 3 decades that I remember.

Being Idealistic does not mean that you are automatically wrong! although ignorance to issues such as these tells a story in regards to the state of the world. You're not coming in because you're a SAFA. I don't care if you're about to die... I fail to see how that's my problem (and other assorted thread responses)... you can now see A result of that and with the current thinking on this planet, nothing is going to change any of that short of a HUGE war... something I not a great fan of.

[Love my Bonnie]

If they don't meet entry requirements then no. Why should we?

Compassion maybe

[Dave Lobster]

Compassion maybe

No no.. these are WHITE people. You only qualify for compassion if you're not white.

[Ronin]

Compassion maybe

The trouble is that if we let everyone in that had it worse off than us there would be no room. They really need to sort there own stuff out, or attempt to before exiting stage left.

[Dave Lobster]

The trouble is that if we let everyone in that had it worse off than us there would be no room. They really need to sort there own stuff out, or attempt to before exiting stage left.

Or only let in on compassionate grounds the sort of people that will try hard and be productive, rather than parasites that want something for nothing, hands out begging for all they can get.

[avgas]

Sounds bloody double dutch to me
(tongue in cheek)

[avgas]

Or only let in on compassionate grounds the sort of people that will try hard and be productive, rather than parasites that want something for nothing, hands out begging for all they can get.

Blardy somalians...................

[mashman]

The trouble is that if we let everyone in that had it worse off than us there would be no room. They really need to sort there own stuff out, or attempt to before exiting stage left.

What do you think they've been doing for the last, say, 100 hundred years? It's not like the world hasn't tried though Ronin is it? and who do you blame for the problems in the first place?

[mashman]

Or only let in on compassionate grounds the sort of people that will try hard and be productive, rather than parasites that want something for nothing, hands out begging for all they can get.

That's what we do already... don't we? do we have any problems with "foreign bludgers"? I'm guessing yes. So how do you tell who's "good" and who's "bad"?

[Coldrider]

That's what we do already... don't we? do we have any problems with "foreign bludgers"? I'm guessing yes. So how do you tell who's "good" and who's "bad"?

Tell them to all fuckoff, problem solved.

[Ronin]

What do you think they've been doing for the last, say, 100 hundred years? It's not like the world hasn't tried though Ronin is it? and who do you blame for the problems in the first place?

Hang on, lets get something straight. You are saying that White SAFA's have been trying to correct all the problems in their country for the last 100 years? Because if that's the case then our definition of 'correct' may differ.

[mashman]

Hang on, lets get something straight. You are saying that White SAFA's have been trying to correct all the problems in their country for the last 100 years? Because if that's the case then our definition of 'correct' may differ.

I never mentioned White SAFA's at all... to me SAFA's are black, white, yellow brown etc... All I was trying to say is that anyone who has stuck their oar in in SA, hasn't really made any difference at all... as for the 100 years, plucked out of the ether for illustration purposes...

Feel free to correct me on any point in no uncertain terms... i'm more than happy to learn.

[Pixie]

Been hearing a lot lately about some form of unrest in SA. Bad enough for Oz to say that there doors are shut to those that wouldn't otherwise be granted access after going through the immigration process... where does that leave those that can't get out? Apparantly my wifes, friends parents are currently locked inside their house... something they haven't done in a VERY long time.

So would you open your doors to those that Oz turns away?

John Minto will put them up