Health Freedom New Zealand

[bogan]

I'm having trouble with the wording, does it mean they will ban pretty much everything a naturopath sells? ie, concentrated vitamins extracted from fruit, dietary supplements, bacteria supplements, etc?

[mashman]

I'm having trouble with the wording, does it mean they will ban pretty much everything a naturopath sells? ie, concentrated vitamins extracted from fruit, dietary supplements, bacteria supplements, etc?

I'm assuming that's the subtext or propoganda... readers choice.

[bogan]

I'm assuming that's the subtext or propoganda... readers choice.

Well that sux, a naturopath saved me months of pain (agony at times), and many a sniffle since. Let me know where to sign, or where to submit, or whatever.

[mashman]

Well that sux, a naturopath saved me months of pain (agony at times), and many a sniffle since. Let me know where to sign, or where to submit, or whatever.

There's no petition as yet... looks like submissions only at this point... and as you know, some think it a total crock... I can't believe it's a total crock for 1 reason... You sting yourself with nettles and the "cure" grows right next to it... there's something to be said for Homeopathy... and just the same as any other drug on this planet, there will be those who don't care about the science as long as there's a buck in it... All the best bogan.

[bogan]

There's no petition as yet... looks like submissions only at this point... and as you know, some think it a total crock... I can't believe it's a total crock for 1 reason... You sting yourself with nettles and the "cure" grows right next to it... there's something to be said for Homeopathy... and just the same as any other drug on this planet, there will be those who don't care about the science as long as there's a buck in it... All the best bogan.

exactly, draws some parallels to the intelligent design vs evolution debate too you could say

[mashman]

exactly, draws some parallels to the intelligent design vs evolution debate too you could say

Very true... or Labour v's National (if that's how you want to equate it)

[avgas]

Diluted water is good for you.
It also can cure the common cold - I have got this to work on myself.
Therefore it is just as dangerous as Pseudoephedrine
BAN IT ALL!

[oldrider]

You can't say nanny state any more - that was a pejorative reserved for Helen & co. So it's now "daddy state"......

There is no "significant" difference between the last lot and this lot, so call it what you like!

Nanny Daddy, Smith Smythe, shit or shite, the final outcome is the same!

Meanwhile back to the OP's thread topic, we should be able to buy whatever health remedy we want!

Medical doctors and hospitals kill more people than our roads but they only receive a fraction of the critical attention!

Big Phama is just trying to assert their right to control "everything" medical!

[davereid]

There is no "significant" difference between the last lot and this lot, so call it what you like!

Same shit,spread by the same tractor. Driver might be different, but he's faithfully following the map.

This is just more crap from government. If the claim about the product is false, they already have zillions of laws to prosecute the seller. If the claim is vague ie this "may help" then if it works for you, go for it.

[scissorhands]

There is no "significant" difference between the last lot and this lot, so call it what you like!

Nanny Daddy, Smith Smythe, shit or shite, the final outcome is the same!

Meanwhile back to the OP's thread topic, we should be able to buy whatever health remedy we want!

Medical doctors and hospitals kill more people than our roads but they only receive a fraction of the critical attention!

Big Phama is just trying to assert their right to control "everything" medical!

What he says

Medical misadventure is a strange word indeed, 3rd leading cause of death in NZ??

When my passed mother went into hospital she was on so many meds she couldnt keep food down. One drug after another drug to deal with side effects.

No dietry recommendations whatsoever. Really sticks in your throat when you mother has been let down to such an extent, by the heroes of science she worshipped through the media.

And of course the stoner son trying to help with the dietry and herbal ideas is such a joke!

Dont get me started on caesars ugly mob, naive and sheep like.

Maybe we all get what we deserve in the end

[Mudfart]

More like "Uncle Bully" state, except in this one we can't hang ourselves and the violence keeps coming.

ahahahaha classic. points for that one, uncle fuckin bully.
yep i'd like to hang everyone that voted for the natzi party. seeing as the violence IS getting worse.
see judith collins tonight?, id like to comment, but meh, whats the fuckin point. yes , yes you are retards.

[Mudfart]

What he says

Medical misadventure is a strange word indeed, 3rd leading cause of death in NZ??

When my passed mother went into hospital she was on so many meds she couldnt keep food down. One drug after another drug to deal with side effects.

No dietry recommendations whatsoever. Really sticks in your throat when you mother has been let down to such an extent, by the heroes of science she worshipped through the media.

And of course the stoner son trying to help with the dietry and herbal ideas is such a joke!

Dont get me started on caesars ugly mob, naive and sheep like.

Maybe we all get what we deserve in the end

yep, same with my mother, she worked right up til death from many cancers, for the betterment of mankind, so it could advance itself scientifically, so people can live longer fuller lives.
she insisted on walking into the hospice, they pumped her full of morphine, so she wouldn't resist the reaper any longer, and in 48hrs, she was dead. I dont beleive the medical community gives two flying fucks on any conditions you may have. they just want your money.
I know this from when they shoved a camera up my arse. it cost me $40k to be told i have irritable bowel syndrome, and then FINALLY put me on losec, which stopped all the severe reflux. IBS, which you WILL be told is caused by excessive stress in your life, is diagnosed to those people whom doctors cant be fucked figuring out what you really have.

[bogan]

I know this from when they shoved a camera up my arse. it cost me $40k to be told i have irritable bowel syndrome, and then FINALLY put me on losec, which stopped all the severe reflux. IBS, which you WILL be told is caused by excessive stress in your life, is diagnosed to those people whom doctors cant be fucked figuring out what you really have.

thats exactly what I avoided by going to the naturopath, with the waiting lists (i didnt have 40k) it would have caused irreversible damage (IBS), naturopath sorted me with strict diet and bacteria supplements and felt better within days. They want to take that option away from people, FUCK THAT.

[davereid]

They want to take that option away from people, FUCK THAT.

Yep, well get typing. My submission is already sent, deluge the bastards with thoughtful, careful but firm "FUCK THATS".

[bogan]

Yep, well get typing. My submission is already sent, deluge the bastards with thoughtful, careful but firm "FUCK THATS".

yeh, at the moment mine would be more sweary than thoughtful, so I'll give it a bit of time before I submit. If you have come up with any good points I may not think of, post em up and I'll add them to mine as well.