Police killing us again!

[SMOKEU]

Yes, because kiddy fiddlers are frequent participants on high speed chases lol

Seriously, i dont care what is the reason for chase, escaped prisoner,bank robber or someone who raped his sister but why should that be my problem and affect my life by being hit by either of them while sitting somewhere on intersection.

Also thats why police has radio and helicopter units...so we dont have to get killed by them (or the people they chase) in cars.

Not every cop shop has a whirly on the roof waiting to take off at the slightest hint of a chase.

[miloking]

Contrary to popular belief, there is not a cop hiding on the side of the road every 500m waiting to bust people for speeding.

Ok then forget about the speeder then, some other cop will get him some other day.... 1 bikers life saved right there!!!

[miloking]

Not every cop shop has a whirly on the roof waiting to take off at the slightest hint of a chase.

Well, maybe they should buy more helicopters not more rubbish bins/hiace vans with cameras hidding in them!!!!!!

(refresh my memory how many milions of dollars was revenue from speeding offences alone last year, 50-ish or more???)

[98tls]

Rip and thoughts to his family and friends.Didnt bother reading the pages of opinions from the KB experts flying into a frenzy of bullshit.The whole affairs very sad and needless,why it has to be taken to bits on here is beyond me,like a pack of bloody Hyenas.

[Big Dave]

Rip and thoughts to his family and friends.Didnt bother reading the pages of opinions from the KB experts flying into a frenzy of bullshit.The whole affairs very sad and needless,why it has to be taken to bits on here is beyond me,like a pack of bloody Hyenas.

What part of 'discussion forum' are you having difficulty with?

[miloking]

Rip and thoughts to his family and friends.Didnt bother reading the pages of opinions from the KB experts flying into a frenzy of bullshit.The whole affairs very sad and needless,why it has to be taken to bits on here is beyond me,like a pack of bloody Hyenas.

It has to be ripped apart like hyenas so maybe enough people get pissed off and something gets done so you or me dont have to die like this tomorrow, next week whenever....just like Mr. Brown did!!!! (may he rest in peace)

[Ronin]

Rip and thoughts to his family and friends.Didnt bother reading the pages of opinions from the KB experts flying into a frenzy of bullshit.The whole affairs very sad and needless,why it has to be taken to bits on here is beyond me,like a pack of bloody Hyenas.

There is a condolence thread which by in large is well behaved... This isn't it.

[Stirts]

I can see where you are coming from 98tls but reading the link that Beemer posted, kind of makes me think that we should be discussing this and also certainly consider some form of action - as Tank suggested. In my opinion this seems to be happening a little too often.

[Swoop]

Is the cop going to sit there and roll a fag before setting off in pursuit?

Having personally known a cop who was based on traffic duties... "YES" is the correct answer to this question. Some of them will do exactly that.

[SPman]

Exactly well said - lets not forget its about revenue generation NOT road safety. You'll never convince me that putting a patrol car or a speed camera on a straight piece of road, at the bottom of a hill or end of a passing lane is in the interest of road safety. .

Actually, I don't think it's about revenue generation - I think it's about easy, lazy policing! Easy and lazy to watch numbers on a machine indicate a crossing of some predetermined boundary, which may, or may not, bear any relationship to "safety", and then pull over said offender and issue a ticket. No critical thinking, judgement calls or any thoughts of "is this breach as bad as it seems or dangerous for the conditions", required. Just another lazy ticket to put on your PI sheet to satisfy parameters handed down by statistic driven ideolouges higher up the ladder!

[Forest]

Very sad for everyone involved.

It just reinforces what I learned many years ago. Riding talent isn't enough, by itself, to preserve a rider's life.

[SMOKEU]

Well, maybe they should buy more helicopters not more rubbish bins/hiace vans with cameras hidding in them!!!!!!

True, but choppers are very expensive to buy and maintain (have a look on TM to see the prices of a 4 seater chopper). Hiring pilots to sit at a cop shop 24/7 waiting for a chase isn't cheap either.

[denill]

Clearly safety has taken a back seat to being able to issue a speeding ticket. When cops realize that making the roads safer is priority number one and generating revenue is priority number two the roads will be a lot safer. RIP.

Cops said: "Mr Tooman said he hoped the driver of the ute would come forward to help police with their investigation"

Is that an implication that the Ute driver caused the death??

Red mist syndrome caused it Tooman. Suck it in Tooman and admit the cop killed the biker.

[Ixion]

Im in NO way taking the cops side in this.Dangerous place to pull a u'ey PERIOD --if you know that bit of road. its resulted in a death which is tragic.
BUT--the guy doing 150 km/h was doing so up onto that self same blind crest at one and a half times the legal speed limit. Should the cop really NOT chase someone going at that speed?

Well, if the guy was going 154kph (and the precision of the number suggests a radar readout), then there was no way the cop was going to perform a safe stop, 3 point turn and pursuit and catch him. He'd have to big a lead. So, in this case, no he should not chase. To do so would be pointless and simply make a dangerous situation more dangerous (as tragically proved to be the case)

[Ixion]

Cops said: "Mr Tooman said he hoped the driver of the ute would come forward to help police with their investigation"

Is that an implication that the Ute driver caused the death??

Red mist syndrome caused it Tooman. Suck it in Tooman and admit the cop killed the biker.

Pretty clear they're looking for a scape goat.