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    Looks like a dumb place to pick to do a U-turn/3 point turn.
    The cop's common sense went right out the window at the thrill of the chase.
    Pity it wasn't one of those new big rigs the gubbmint is going to allow on our roads, instead of a motorcyclist.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    Looks like a dumb place to pick to do a U-turn/3 point turn.
    The cop's common sense went right out the window at the thrill of the chase.
    Pity it wasn't one of those new big rigs the gubbmint is going to allow on our roads, instead of a motorcyclist.....
    We all have dreams.........

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    The unfortunate thing here (besides the tragic loss of life) is that the greatest lesson that can be learned from this incident will probably fly straight over the head of most on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    Pity it wasn't one of those new big rigs the gubbmint is going to allow on our roads, instead of a motorcyclist.....
    +1 on the if only it was!!!

    i can see the headline already..."Stupid cops dies while doing Uturn by being hit by 30ton truck!"

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    No wonder they want to put up our ACC levys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    The unfortunate thing here (besides the tragic loss of life) is that the greatest lesson that can be learned from this incident will fly straight over the head of most on here.
    What lesson is that??? ...if you had any respect left for NZ police its out of window now? Or ride 75km/h on open road with your hand on a front brake in constant fear of death???

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    Ok - quick calculation.

    Assumptions:
    Cop driving at 100km/h got the ute speed reading of 154km/h at a distance of 150m.
    Cop took 5 seconds to slow to turn and 3 seconds to turn.
    Cop accelerated linearly to 200km/h in 15 seconds and sat at 200km/h.
    Ute remained at a steady 154km/h (yeah, right!).

    Total distance needed to catch ute (to a chase distance of 75m behind): 2.1km.
    Total time of pursuit to catch up to ute from speed reading: 61 seconds.
    The ute would be 340m away as the cop completes his turn to pursue.
    The ute would be 830m away by the time the cop gets to 200km/h.
    Last edited by Max Preload; 19th April 2010 at 16:37. Reason: Royally fucked it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Ok - quick calculation.

    Assumptions:
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    The ute would be 940m away by the time the cop gets to 200km/h
    The ute would be 940m away by the time the cop gets to 200km/h and sitting behind the bush on side road waiting for the fuzz to fly by.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    Ok - quick calculation.

    Assumptions:
    Cop driving at 100km/h got the ute speed reading of 154km/h at a distance of 150m.
    Cop took 5 seconds to slow to turn and 3 seconds to turn.
    Cop accelerated linearly to 200km/h in 15 seconds and sat at 200km/h.
    Ute remained at a steady 154km/h (yeah, right!).

    Total distance needed to catch ute (to a chase distance of 75m behind): 3.1km.
    Total time of pursuit to catch up to ute from speed reading: 78 seconds.
    The ute would be 300m away as the cop completes his turn to pursue.
    The ute would be 940m away by the time the cop gets to 200km/h.
    Meaning............if the cop stops for doughnuts the ute will escape?

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    I couldn't do a *safe* three point turn in 3 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPLIN View Post
    No wonder they want to put up our ACC levys
    They should up the cops ACC levies 100-fold.
    And put them through an independent driving course....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I couldn't do a *safe* three point turn in 3 seconds.
    Was this copper in motion or parked on the side of the road when he spotted the offender?

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    While I agree that when safe, cops should pursue, the fact is, from the current information, it WASNT safe to pursue. for one, regardless of other conditions or circumstances, the cop needs to get a radar lock, and get the speed of 154. then his brain has to compute. then he has to slow to a stop from 100km/hr+/-. then check the road is safe. by now 20 seconds have easily passed, then it takes what, 5-10 seconds to perform the turn, AFTER taking a couple seconds to check the road is clear. THEN its gonna take the cop about 8-10 seconds to accelerate to 154km/hr. now the speeder already has a gap of about 1.7-2km head start. how much faster will the cop need to travel to CATCH the guy. he would need to travel at at least 200km for a fair amount of time.

    aside from that consider the yellow lines and the place he chose to turn.

    lack of thought cost a biker his life. tragedy that couldve been avoided.

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Like that is gonna happen...
    The ute driver is probably sitting down comparing notes with the cunt that dropped oil on SH5 Feb 09.
    agree. if you were the ute driver, would you be fessing up that your were speeding, knowing theyd try to pin the bikers death on you? I fuckin welll wouldnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I couldn't do a *safe* three point turn in 3 seconds.
    I was being generous and made the cop's deceleration to 0km/h.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigertim20 View Post
    While I agree that when safe, cops should pursue, the fact is, from the current information, it WASNT safe to pursue. for one, regardless of other conditions or circumstances, the cop needs to get a radar lock, and get the speed of 154. then his brain has to compute. then he has to slow to a stop from 100km/hr+/-.
    Was the biker behind the cop or travelling in the same direction as the ute?

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