Police killing us again!

[98tls]

The difference with this one is the poor guy was killed by a person who's job it is to uphold the law, and who's job involves preaching the virtues to everyone else on the road. Seems he didn't practice what he preached! No different really than if a cop robbed a bank or murdered someone, it will create more discussion because ultimately they are breaking the laws they are paid to enforce.

Yea yea i understand that but it has just always seemed odd to me that as motorcyclists we jump up and down when a cops involved but take it on the chin when we hear of similar horror driving resulting in a motorcyclists death when its Joe Public driving the car,ive lost a cousin and 3 mates over the years,sitting here thinking about it and to be honest it would make no difference if a cop killed em rather than Joe Public car driver.But yea anyways just my take on the whole thing.

[terbang]

Well yes, no fatalities but the last one (Buller gorge) had some serious injuries. Now if lessons had been learnt with measures, procedures and above all, an instilment of self discipline over that one had been made, the situation may not have progressed to the next stage. A fatality.
So whats next or are they going to learn something this time.
I certainly hope that every cop in NZ has a good think about this one, does a bit of honest self analysis about their own personal discipline when faced with a similar situation. You are perceived by most as professional road users.

[Crazy Steve]

I did a Season at Fonterra in Te Rapa, and the Tanker drivers use that road as there race track.

Would of been very interesting to see a Fully loaded Milk Tanker hitting that Police car with 27500ltrs of milk on board.

Someone would of got very very WET !!

Crazy Steve.

[scumdog]

Or , easier, see if anyone can remember an occasion when a cop did a SAFE U turn ?

Me.
Today
10 times in 40 seconds
Then I got giddy and stopped
Because it was too dangerous

[Indoo]

I'm still waiting for Les to post some figures to back his claim 'Given the rate that careless driving by cops kills motorcyclists'

I'm sure Ixion wouldn't actually just make stuff up, would be rather damaging to his credibility given his position. I'm sure he will be producing the figures shortly so we can see the full horror of the endemic of Police slaying innocent motorcyclists.

[Naki Rat]

The police hierarchy and Stoney were just interviewed on National Radio . Great presentation Stoney..... and the police spokesman came across like a cornered rat, especially as the interviewer was in like a big dog. 50-60 metres from the brow of a blind brow the cop needs stringing up

[tomobedlam]

Yep, I thought about that but then we don't know what the visibility of either the cop or the rider was, where the sun was etc etc.... We will never know if he could have stopped in time and even if we did it wouldn't change the fact that a person has died.....

Well we do actually, if the distance of 50m from the top of the hill report by RNZ is correct then we can conclued that he had no chance in hell of stopping in time traveling at a 100km/h

http://www.liikenneturva.fi/www/fi/a...Motorcycle.swf

[miloking]

I'm sure Ixion wouldn't actually just make stuff up, would be rather damaging to his credibility given his position. I'm sure he will be producing the figures shortly so we can see the full horror of the endemic of Police slaying innocent motorcyclists.

What are you two cops or something (you and Scumdog)?!?!

I dont know you guys so sorry if i insulted you by calling you cops (i know i would be if someone called me a cop right now) but whos side are you realy on? the dead innocent biker or the stupid ignorant retard of a lame excuse for tax collector cop?

[yorkshire raceramesh]

Thing is, we are used to joe public morons wiping us out on a daily basis, but you expect a higher standard from the cops. I personally have been u-turned on several times, AND, NEVER as the cop put lights/siren on until AFTER he's turned and dissapeared into the distance. Mind you, did get my own back, drove HARD into back of an unmarked cop who was parked round a blind corner on double yellow lines. Good job I was driving the ute with a big winch on the front!!

[terbang]

I'm sure Ixion wouldn't actually just make stuff up, would be rather damaging to his credibility given his position. I'm sure he will be producing the figures shortly so we can see the full horror of the endemic of Police slaying innocent motorcyclists.

So by that am I to assume no lessons were learnt from the Buller gorge incident and that we need an endemic slaying before any measures are put in place?
How can you defend such ridiculous and senseless acts by any organization, let alone one that should know a lot better?

[Crasherfromwayback]

You are perceived by most as professional road users.

Only the 'most' that haven't a fucking clue in the first place. The same 'most' that think all bike riders are dangerous idiots.

[scumdog]

What are you two cops or something (you and Scumdog)?!?!

I dont know you guys so sorry if i insulted you by calling you cops (i know i would be if someone called me a cop right now) but whos side are you realy on? the dead innocent biker or the stupid ignorant retard of a lame excuse for tax collector cop?

Mwahahahahahahhahaa........

[98tls]

Does anyone know what speed the guy on the bike was doing?i dont but fwiw if a car was doing 150 kms in front of me then to be honest i would use that as a chance to stretch my legs as if there was a cop in the vicinity chances are hes going to get the car on his radar first.Dunno, just a thought.

[Ixion]

I just measured it on the map, using the map reference posted below. You can use the side street sign as a marker. It make it around 70 meters to the crown of the hill (it's quite a gentle brow, so probably 50 metres to the point where it slopes down).

[Max Preload]

Would of been very interesting to see a Fully loaded Milk Tanker hitting that Police car with 27500ltrs of milk on board.

Mmmmmm... chocolate milk...