Police killing us again!

**peasea** · 20th April 2010, 21:14

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Well rather than being a sheep and jumping on the Cop Bashing Wagon (tm), why don't you stop and think for yourself and see that we are dealing with ONE man, who made a mistake. End of story.

Remember, he is a Human before he is a Police Officer.

Rubbish; he was a revenue collector first and foremost. And I DO think for myself; I think cops are not to be trusted coz I've seen them lie in the box. Experience is a great teacher.

**peasea** · 20th April 2010, 21:15

Originally Posted by scumdog

Quite right, they're all like that, every man-jack, the lot of them............speshuly them general ones.

I posted "cops in general". Have you seen a cop in a general?

Oh, of course you have, you're a southerner...(Duelling Banjos intro...)

**R6_kid:Me** · 20th April 2010, 21:15

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

but back to the cop in question; i don't give a rats arse about how he feels. my lifetimes experience has shown me they lie, manipulate and cover each others arses. I don't trust oir believe any of them and that goes triple for the coppers here

You're lifetimes experience isn't worth shit if you fail to realise that each person is an individual and deserves to be treated as such.

Until anything to support your mindless ramblings eventuates you may wish to refrain from further making yourself look like a self absorbed prick. All I've seen in the media so far is a Police Spokesperson choosing not to comment simply because no facts have been presented to him which support either person being 100% at fault.

**idleidolidyll** · 20th April 2010, 21:16

"I think cops are not to be trusted coz I've seen them lie in the box"

that's 2 of us: i bet there are a lot more

the reaping and sowing thing huh!

**rachprice** · 20th April 2010, 21:18

Originally Posted by biker baz

A bit of black humour for you. Iatrogenic deaths (wtf is that you say? - Simply put, death by medicine. Either adverse drug reaction or doctor stuff up). kill 1500 people a year in NZ - THREE times our annual road kill. No signs outside hospitals telling us oops, 28 deaths this week.
In the ACC accounts there is one called medical accidents, changed in the mid 90's from medical misadventure. This has increased 335% in the last 10 years.
Not only are we at risk from the 75% of accidents caused by other drivers, the risk of medical care has got 3.35 times worse, U turn cowboy cops after their quota are a menace and we, the victims get screwed for acc levies paying $30 to improve our driving skills to avoid the fw's who really want to kill us. Be alert, the country needs more of them.

Bullshit and how many people does medicine save????
Just because something has got 335% greater there is no way in hell you can draw the deifnitive conclusion that medical care has got 3.35X worse

**R6_kid:Me** · 20th April 2010, 21:18

Originally Posted by peasea

Rubbish; he was a revenue collector first and foremost. And I DO think for myself; I think cops are not to be trusted coz I've seen them lie in the box. Experience is a great teacher.

Revenue collecting? It's said the vehicle he was going to pursue was clocked at 154kmh. Would you prefer that he did nothing? If that vehicle continued on down the road and hit a school bus full of kids, would you then say he was irresponsible for not giving chase and attempting to stop him?

It'd be revenue collecting if the vehicle was doing 110-115kmh.

**scumdog** · 20th April 2010, 21:19

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

"I think cops are not to be trusted coz I've seen them lie in the box"

that's 2 of us: i bet there are a lot more

the reaping and sowing thing huh!

Too soon, juust finished the ploughing, be a bit before they sow I reckon....

**R6_kid:Me** · 20th April 2010, 21:19

Originally Posted by idleidolidyll

"I think cops are not to be trusted coz I've seen them lie in the box"

that's 2 of us: i bet there are a lot more

the reaping and sowing thing huh!

Cool. I'm sure if you were on trial, and all your mates were witnesses, they'd have your back. Am I wrong?

That's ok. You're allowed to lie because you aren't a cop.

**quickbuck** · 20th April 2010, 21:20

Okay,
Last post.

For those that are spreading the Tar.... How does it make you feel when Joe Public pulls you up on the actions another motorcyclist has done in the past?

**peasea** · 20th April 2010, 21:20

Originally Posted by R6_kid

It'd be revenue collecting if the vehicle was doing 110-115kmh.

No doubt, and I'm glad you're now on record as saying that what you do is what it is; revenue collecting.

**idleidolidyll** · 20th April 2010, 21:21

Originally Posted by R6_kid

You're lifetimes experience isn't worth shit if you fail to realise that each person is an individual and deserves to be treated as such.

bullshit; that's a criticism made with years of experience with lying asshole coppers in mind
the copper on the coro loop rd last year pronouncing that the deceased biker died because of excessive speed hammered hom the point: the coppers pretty much expect and treat all motocyclists the same so why shouldn't we too generalise based on experience?

Until anything to support your mindless ramblings eventuates you may wish to refrain from further making yourself look like a self absorbed prick. All I've seen in the media so far is a Police Spokesperson choosing not to comment simply because no facts have been presented to him which support either person being 100% at fault.

mindless rant? you've been reading your own work again!

**peasea** · 20th April 2010, 21:21

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Cool. I'm sure if you were on trial, and all your mates were witnesses, they'd have your back. Am I wrong?

That's ok. You're allowed to lie because you aren't a cop.

So cops ARE allowed to lie?
Stop digging, your very own grave is getting deeper.

**peasea** · 20th April 2010, 21:23

Originally Posted by quickbuck

Okay,
Last post.

Good, you live in Bulls (funny) and ride a Honda.

**YellowDog** · 20th April 2010, 21:23

Originally Posted by R6_kid

I hope you take the chance to go back on your word if/when the Police Officer turns out to be an upstanding citizen and takes the blame and any punishment handed down to him. What you are forgetting is that he is also gravely affected by the whole situation too. Ok, so he didn't die. But he is probably having a very hard time coming to grips with the fact that he has just killed someone - by accident. Not only that, but in his mind the road was clear when he initiated the maneuver, for all you know one minute he is doing a three point turn, the next BANG he's been shunted and now has to deal with a smashed up motorcycle, a smashed up cop car and a dead motorcyclist.

Put yourself in his shoes before you start taking the high and mighty attitude about a single person you have never met in your life.

The Policeman was doing his job and made a serious error of judgement. We all make errors in our jobs. This one cost a life and this is something that he will have to live with.
He may of may not be a good person. None of us know. If this tradegy awakens the Police into rethinking their rules of engagement, then something good may come from this awful situation.

Last May I had a Police car 3 point turn to chase me after I was pinged coming over the brow of a hill on the Desert Road. I was amazed he took such a chance I told him so whilst he was writing out the $280 fine. It should not take an innocent death to bring attention to such a glaringly obvious failing.