Police killing us again!

**MSTRS:Me** · 22nd April 2010, 09:02

Originally Posted by Littleman

I encourage you to think 'bigger picture'.

I may be reading this out of context, but to me it means that you think 'a little collateral damage'(1) is just fine, if it means that speeders etc get caught and fined.
*finger hovering over the red, pre-clarification*

(1) Innocents being maimed and killed

**bogan** · 22nd April 2010, 09:09

Interesting isn't it, the speed kills campaign has become so ingrained to some people that to stop a speeder it is ok to put other road users at risk. Tell me, what is the point of stopping a speeder? isn't it to reduce the risk to other road users.

**Katman** · 22nd April 2010, 09:11

Originally Posted by bogan

Interesting isn't it, the speed kills campaign has become so ingrained to some people that to stop a speeder it is ok to put other road users at risk. Tell me, what is the point of stopping a speeder? isn't it to reduce the risk to other road users.

Oh what a conundrum.

**terbang** · 22nd April 2010, 09:14

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

No, its just highlighted that there are some people out there with some really nasty attitudes. Its also ( again ) highlighted a kangaroo court mentality.

Not so mate, people are just really pissed off with this type of accident that seems to be recurring. A lot are highly suspicious of the worth and integrity of our current police force. Personally I don't blame them as their (so called police) copybook has become well blotted over recent years with many very public corruption (remember Clint and his mates?) and incompetence issues.
I think most would like the Police/Pollies to take a review of themselves and above all, would like to be able to brow a hill or take a bend (car or motorcycle) without the risk of a police car sitting in the middle of the road.

**bogan** · 22nd April 2010, 09:14

Originally Posted by Katman

Oh what a conundrum.

not really, just start the pursuit only when it's safe and the majority of speeders will still be ticketed. Or just get some goddamn cameras in the cop cars, stop buying such stupid fucking cars, get some cheaper ones and there will be plenty of money left over for the cameras.

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2010, 09:15

Originally Posted by Smifffy

WTF?

What does he do?

Pulls out his cellphone to dial 111!!???

WTF?

You know you don't want him to be on XT!!

Maybe the call was about something he did not want to go through "channels" with?

**Kornholio** · 22nd April 2010, 09:19

Originally Posted by Caleb Brown

Thank you for all the support that you have shown us. As Pauls brother I would like to extend a welcome to other motorcyclists to attend his funeral on Friday at 1pm, Waerenga Hall, Sattlement Road, Waerenga. Please bring your bike. Any small donations to the familly would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Caleb, Look forward to meeting you and the rest of the family... We will have a group riding up from Te Aroha tomorrow morning
See ya then

Rick

Originally Posted by Ronin

Hey Caleb. Thanks for letting us know about that. I'm sure that all those who can will be there.

Please dont take to much notice of all the drivel in here.

Condolences to you and your Family.

Oh, and what he said

**trustme** · 22nd April 2010, 09:20

Originally Posted by bogan

Interesting isn't it, the speed kills campaign has become so ingrained to some people that to stop a speeder it is ok to put other road users at risk. Tell me, what is the point of stopping a speeder? isn't it to reduce the risk to other road users.

Had the rider been riding at the legal speed limit I think he would have had every chance of stopping, & yes I know the road, the cop showed very poor judgement in choosing to turn there however , the speed at which the rider was travelling most certainly left him unable to miss the copper. Innocent rider, wrong place,wrong time, I'm afraid not.

On that road there are frequent milk tankers & stock trucks pulling in & out of farms, Bloody great tractors towing ag equipment, loose stock , tippers carting from Smythe's quarry, It is not a good place for high speed riding as there are blind spots eveywhere.
The locals had been warned that it would end in tears & someone would get killed.
Tragically the warning proved to be on the money.

**Pixie** · 22nd April 2010, 09:21

Originally Posted by trustme

So plod should never persue. Speeding motorists should be left to get on with their right to break laws & drive in a dangerous manner. The scary thing is YOU are serious.

Where's never?
I demand that they don't act like dogs spotting a rabbit and drive safely.
As for the rest,I direct you to Candor

**miloking** · 22nd April 2010, 09:22

Originally Posted by Pixie

So who's sent an email showing your concern to the ministers concerned?Instead of just whining to the pack.
Do it now

j.collins@ministers.govt.nz
steven.joyce@national.org.nz

I did!! Who else?

(oh and i used spell check Indoo so dont worry i wont embarass you in front of your boss with my typos)

**Kiwi675** · 22nd April 2010, 09:23

Now this guy is an idoit and we should have no sympathy for him................

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3609...Hamilton-crash

**miloking** · 22nd April 2010, 09:26

Originally Posted by Kiwi675

Now this guy is an idoit and we shold have no sympathy for him................

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3609...Hamilton-crash

And you guys were worried I give motorcyclists bad name! What a moron...i used to pull shit like that when i was 14

**bogan** · 22nd April 2010, 09:26

Originally Posted by trustme

Had the rider been riding at the legal speed limit I think he would have had every chance of stopping, & yes I know the road, the cop showed very poor judgement in choosing to turn there however , the speed at which the rider was travelling most certainly left him unable to miss the copper. Innocent rider, wrong place,wrong time, I'm afraid not.

On that road there are frequent milk tankers & stock trucks pulling in & out of farms, Bloody great tractors towing ag equipment, loose stock , tippers carting from Smythe's quarry, It is not a good place for high speed riding as there are blind spots eveywhere.
The locals had been warned that it would end in tears & someone would get killed.
Tragically the warning proved to be on the money.

There was no gateway for tankers to pull out of where the crash happend (one could reasonably assume if he was speeding he slowed for such higher risk areas), and a tractor or other slow moving vehicle could have been seen going over the brow of the hill from a distance.

And you didn't answer my (i forgot the ? actually, but it was implied) question, do you think putting motorists at risk is worth catching a speeder? (your posts imply you do, but I'd like clarification)

**bogan** · 22nd April 2010, 09:27

Originally Posted by Pixie

So who's sent an email showing your concern to the ministers concerned?Instead of just whining to the pack.
Do it now

j.collins@ministers.govt.nz
steven.joyce@national.org.nz

who are they and what do they do, I'll voice my concerns, but better to put it into context.