North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

[Itchy_Kiwis]

Hey Guys, just want to say I did my full test today and passed! YAY!

Was quite nervous about it, but it ended up being a piece of cake =) Thanks to all of you for making NASS such a great place to learn and have some fun!

Now onto a bigger bike! I'm going to have some fun trying a few

Well Done!
now you can stay out as late as you want LOL
i hope you will continue with the NASS training because we all look forward to seeing your new bike

[shah]

good one. looks like we're going to miss your black/orange bandit soon.

Hey Guys, just want to say I did my full test today and passed! YAY!

[zealchick]

Great exercises tonight, I feel like a I have never ridden any bikes before, it really helps practicing with you all. Good to see Richard again and thanks to Philip for showing us how to lube the chain ~ !!!

For those who missed tonight

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I missed this demo as i turned up a bit late. Watched it last night went and got myself a bottle of kerosene and a spray bottle and got to work..... went through a heap of rags but man what a difference my chain looks awesome!! and well so does everything else that was a tad greasy. Thanks Phillip :-) Whats this weeks demo on lol

[TOTO]

good on Hayden for taping it too

[p.dath]

I've had someone ask if we can do U-turn practice this Wednesday. So we should be able to setup a series of cones to require a 180 degree turn to the left and to the right.

[R-Soul]

Rmember that you must lean out of the corner.

[p.dath]

Rmember that you must lean out of the corner.

I don't know if you'll be doing much leaning during a U-turn ... it's usually done at quite a low speed.

[R-Soul]

I don't know if you'll be doing much leaning during a U-turn ... it's usually done at quite a low speed.

Exactly!

When you do low speed turning (i.e. ewhen you are NOT countersteering), you want the bike to lean over as much as possible as it allows the bike to turn in a smaller radius. (This advice is from the book "Total control"). By leaning OUT of the corner (i.e. opposite to the way you want to turn) you get the bike to lean further into the corner. Because its at low speed, the operation of the suspension is not an issue. But the bike will have a smaller turning radius.

Also when U- turning, look back over your shoulder at the point you want to turn to.

When you are turning at higher speeds (i.e. above 20km/hr), you are using counter steering and steering away from the side you want to turn to. This is when you lean INTO the corner. This keeps the bike more upright and allows the suspension to operate more efficiently, increasing traction.

PS this is the stuff I have learnt from these books- not just my personal opinion (although I can vouch for the fact that this technique works WELL). Leaning outwardly on the turns, and looking where you want to go, also works for the low speed courses that we were doing a couple of weeks back.

[zealchick]

I missed this demo as i turned up a bit late. Watched it last night went and got myself a bottle of kerosene and a spray bottle and got to work..... went through a heap of rags but man what a difference my chain looks awesome!! and well so does everything else that was a tad greasy. Thanks Phillip :-) Whats this weeks demo on lol

PS I Had george from motorcycles doctors round today and he showed me how to jack the rear tire up a couple of inches with a car jack to make this soooo much easier. There you go thats my little bit of helpful advice :-)

[p.dath]

When you do low speed turning (i.e. ewhen you are NOT countersteering), you want the bike to lean over as much as possible as it allows the bike to turn in a smaller radius. (This advice is from the book "Total control"). By leaning OUT of the corner (i.e. opposite to the way you want to turn) you get the bike to lean further into the corner. Because its at low speed, the operation of the suspension is not an issue. But the bike will have a smaller turning radius.

Clarify what you mean by leaning out. Your leaning the bike to the outside and the rider is leaning ?, or the bike is ? and the rider is ?

[R-Soul]

Clarify what you mean by leaning out. Your leaning the bike to the outside and the rider is leaning ?, or the bike is ? and the rider is ?

For tight low speed turns where you are NOT countersteering, you turn the steering in the direction of the turn (i.e. when you are turning left, you steer left by pulling left bar towards you) and you lean the bike into the turn (i.e. lean it left if you are turning left), while leaning the rider out of the turn (i.e. right if you are turning left) to counterbalance the weight of the bike.


And look behind you at the same time (i.e look over your shoulder to the left if turning left)

Clear?

[R-Soul]

hopefully I can make it there

I have to do a U-turn every day in our parking garage to leave after work. After I read this in the book, I started doing this - and it makes my Uturns MUCH charper and tighter. In fact it makes all my low speed steering much tighter (if I need it to be tighter).

[TOTO]

too much theory hurts my head

[Neon]

For tight low speed turns where you are NOT countersteering, you turn the steering in the direction of the turn (i.e. when you are turning left, you steer left by pulling left bar towards you) and you lean the bike into the turn (i.e. lean it left if you are turning left), while leaning the rider out of the turn (i.e. right if you are turning left) to counterbalance the weight of the bike.


And look behind you at the same time (i.e look over your shoulder to the left if turning left)

Clear?

A-like so (images from Total Control by Lee Parks - go buy it )

[p.dath]

For tight low speed turns where you are NOT countersteering, you turn the steering in the direction of the turn (i.e. when you are turning left, you steer left by pulling left bar towards you) and you lean the bike into the turn (i.e. lean it left if you are turning left), while leaning the rider out of the turn (i.e. right if you are turning left) to counterbalance the weight of the bike.


And look behind you at the same time (i.e look over your shoulder to the left if turning left)

Clear?

That sounds very reasonable. I wil try and buy this book.