Motorcyclist hits 200kmh on State Highway 1

[Bad Gixxer]

come on Mom thats a bit harsh. well a lot harsh...theres a hell of a lot of people on here that do those sort of speeds and more.

Didn't sound like he was bragging, just stating the facts re loss of licence speeds.

Thanks nallac, for so eloquently replying to MOM and pointing out that i was merely stating a fact as to how demerit points and license suspension works. I would have replied much less diplomatically and probably suggested that it's probably riders like MOM who wind up as traffic statistics. The reason i say that MOM is that i firmly believe that unless you're able to ride a bike safely and in a controlled manner at speed, take the time to study the dynamics and physics of motorcycling, take lessons from professionals on the track, learn how ro brake with your back wheel in the air from 300klm/h, trail your rear brake in a 190klm bend, and other braggish stuff like that, well this is what happens.......riders who treat riding a bike like a hobby tend to have difficulty exiting themselves from a reasonably straight forward "tricky situation" and bin their bikes or hit the pole/tree/car/bus/truck/brick wall, or go sailing over the bluff. Wheras if you take the time to aquire real skills, the same situation will probably be a non event. If you want to put round at 100klm, then good luck to you. And please feel free to critisize me for riding at speeds in excess of the legally posted limit, you have every right to do so....but don't be abusive and start name calling - i won't lower myself to your standards and retaliate by calling you an equally offensive name - only a Retarded F***wit would call somebody a wanker without provocation. Have a happy day :-)

[HenryDorsetCase]

A few years ago I was with a group touring - or should I say RACING around the South Island. At one point I was leading a bunch of about 10 bikes. Was doing well over the limit and came across a small crest to see a cop coming in the other direction. He got a hell of a shock - as did I and by the time he had flicked on the radar and lights I was way past. Saw him skid to a halt in a cloud of dust on the side of the road preparing to do the Uey. Just at that moment the rest of the group came flying past him. In the end he just sat there and didnt move. Kept looking in my mirrors for an awfully long time though.

We all had a good laugh about it later that day....

Two days later one of our group was killed instantly in a head on smash at very high speed with a small tourist van. One of the occupants of the van was trapped for a while and injured.

The cops who attended did an awesome job of helping, consoling, comforting and organising counselling (victim support ???) etc for us and acted in an utterly professional and unjudgmental fashion.

It totally changed my attitude to road riding and my opinion of cops out on the road. They are the ones who get to clean up the mess when we get it wrong. They see the devastating results of high speed collisions on a fairly regular basis - if we are lucky its never, or a once in a lifetime thing.

Dont bother telling me what you think of cops (in general) until you have been through an experience like that and seen what they have to deal with on a regular basis

You are far too sensible and serious to be posting on the internets. Please go and have four or five Jack Daniels and come back when you are able to participate at the expected level.

[blueblade]

Yeah I know and I dont usually bother - just been getting really pissed off with all the ridiculous cop bashing threads on here lately. And I also realise that all the people that need to hear it most will take absolutely no notice of posts like mine

[Elysium]

So anyone know what bike this was being used/stolen?

[shrub]

Dont bother telling me what you think of cops (in general) until you have been through an experience like that and seen what they have to deal with on a regular basis

Just before Christmas I watched a good man die on the side of the road. He came off at around 100 kmh, was wearing top kit and didn't hit any road furniture, and the cops, ambos and fire crew who turned up were legends.

I think my problem is that speed has become a silver bullet - if you're speeding you'll die, therefore if you're not speeding you're not in any real danger and our Cuntstables enforce that ideology with an almost religious fervour. I have ridden bikes at 212 kmh and faster, and been at less risk of meeting the good baby Jesus than riding my treadlie at 20 kmh and it may be that the legendary Ducati rider was a highly skilled rider who took a very measured risk and was relatively safe (I say relatively because the only completely safe speed is locked up in the shed), or he could be a noob who got his hands on a superbike for a blat and was riding waaaaaaaay past his safety level - or somewhere in the middle.

Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second. My friends all laugh, but I hate driving my car because I think it's incredibly dangerous and feel much safer on my bike. Not just my own safety, but I am terrified of being one of those citizens who drives through a red light because a song I hated had just come on and I had to change the channel, or I dropped a hot pie on my crotch and was more worried about my toasting nads than the terrified biker heading straight for me.

[bogan]

Yeah I know and I dont usually bother - just been getting really pissed off with all the ridiculous cop bashing threads on here lately. And I also realise that all the people that need to hear it most will take absolutely no notice of posts like mine

It only a minority that get stuck in on the cop bashing threads, and even then usually somebody adds a well thought out post explaining that cops are bound by policy and its the policies that need to change etc, though in an ideal world it would be the cops that are the first to realise that policies need to change and start the ball rolling themselves....

Just before Christmas I watched a good man die on the side of the road. He came off at around 100 kmh, was wearing top kit and didn't hit any road furniture, and the cops, ambos and fire crew who turned up were legends.

I think my problem is that speed has become a silver bullet - if you're speeding you'll die, therefore if you're not speeding you're not in any real danger and our Cuntstables enforce that ideology with an almost religious fervour. I have ridden bikes at 212 kmh and faster, and been at less risk of meeting the good baby Jesus than riding my treadlie at 20 kmh and it may be that the legendary Ducati rider was a highly skilled rider who took a very measured risk and was relatively safe (I say relatively because the only completely safe speed is locked up in the shed), or he could be a noob who got his hands on a superbike for a blat and was riding waaaaaaaay past his safety level - or somewhere in the middle.

Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second. My friends all laugh, but I hate driving my car because I think it's incredibly dangerous and feel much safer on my bike. Not just my own safety, but I am terrified of being one of those citizens who drives through a red light because a song I hated had just come on and I had to change the channel, or I dropped a hot pie on my crotch and was more worried about my toasting nads than the terrified biker heading straight for me.

completely agree, it is ridiculous that the public feels 100kmhr is safe, but 120 is dangerous, the signs saying 100kmhr is not are target are ridiculous, all this speed kills campaigning has made 100kmhr the target, no more, no less, don't worry about the conditions, 100kmhr is safe.

And yeh, I have the same problem in my van, no feel for the road, can't see shit, other people are definetely safer when I'm on my bike, and I wouldnt be surprised if I was too.

[StoneY]

Thanks nallac, for so eloquently replying to MOM and pointing out that i was merely stating a fact as to how demerit points and license suspension works. I would have replied much less diplomatically and probably suggested that it's probably riders like MOM who wind up as traffic statistics. - i won't lower myself to your standards and retaliate by calling you an equally offensive name - only a Retarded F***wit would call somebody a wanker without provocation. Have a happy day :-)

You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

[Kittyhawk]

Pictures or it didn't happen!!!!

I never speed myself "wink wink"

Cant post up pics, dont want your keyboard getting all messy.

[StoneY]

I'm guessing an 1098 or 1198 here. On a serious note I hope the wanker gets caught in the end as a crash would've been more ammo for Nick Smith.

LOL no point trying to guess the model...
My ST4 can do well over 200k, as can my mates 696 Monster and another mates older 800 Monster.... Ducati's go FAST theres no evidence it was this model or that model

I mean ffs a decent 250 can hold 220 or so these days

I agree on the ammo for Nyx Myth, either scenario of 'he crashes' or 'gets caught' is bad news, bikers get a bad rap at a time we DO NOT NEED more negative publicity

My take is: dont speed outrageously on SH1 or any other main trunk highway
We all know plenty of quiet long open roads where we can play with less visibility and risk (not much less but less all the same)
Really, it should be saved for track days (TUI AD)

We ALL open the throttle up now and then, some more than others and I too (who SHOULD know better) have often done ridiculous speeds on public roads

But SH1 at 9ish in the morning........ no ammount of skill and experience can make that safe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You have NO idea how Anne (aka MOM) rides. Or her involvemnt in road safety and ACC campaigns over the past few years

Your post is a braggish piece of self inflatoray dribble.. and you deserve to be called a wanker for advocating such behaviour on public roads
Braking from 300kmh with your back wheel in the air.... how the hell does this contribute to ROAD safety or keeping ya license? Your the sort of rider who justifies Nick Smiths take on our road habits

19 posts, been here a few weeks, dude, there are plenty of motorcycle instructors and riders with years and years of 'hobbying' on this forum, members of BRONZ and other organisations that try to IMPROVE our record

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

I particularly like that neologism: "infloratory" presumably an amalgamation of "inflammable" and "oratory". Excellent! My only quibble is that "oratory" tends to refer to the spoken word, rather than written. Kudos!

[Fatjim]

The difference between 200kph+ at 9am in the morning on SH1 and 3pm Sunday out the back of Alfredton is what legends are made of. Nothing more.

[StoneY]

I particularly like that neologism: "infloratory" presumably an amalgamation of "inflammable" and "oratory". Excellent! My only quibble is that "oratory" tends to refer to the spoken word, rather than written. Kudos!

Hehe my english sux but im sure you got my drift

[HenryDorsetCase]

212kmh on SH1-
Anyone doing these speeds on a public road is a fuckhead (and that includes myself when I have done such as well)

Hopefully it was a dude on a testride. Ride it like you rented it.

One last thing: you know how people know you are a rider when they're not, and they send you gruesome photos of motorcycle accidents? Like the guy impaled into the back of the truck? I hate that shit, and am pretty squeamish at the best of times, but the one that made me very queasy indeed was one where a guy had in fact come off at an estimated 180, and hit some armco. See that boot over there? still got a foot in it. See the helmet, you guessed it, had a head in it, torso with no limbs. Guy was wearing a Dainese suit and boots IIRC. But speed didnt kill him, it was the sudden stop.

I was young once and stupid and did stupid shit like eveyone here who is honest. I was lucky, and now I am hopefully less stupid. But focussing on speed as the "Be all and end all" of road safety; bollocsk.

I agree entirely with this

Personally I think speed limits are nanny state protectionism, and evidence is overwhelming that they are more of a barrier to safety than a solution. I believe that they are a self-justifying mechanism to raise revenue and give lip service to the real issue impacting road safety which is the ridiculously unskilled road users everywhere, and with that the appallingly cavalier attitude people have towards the process of driving 2 tonnes of steel and glass at 30m per second.

[StoneY]

Hopefully it was a dude on a testride. Ride it like you rented it.


I was young once and stupid and did stupid shit like eveyone here who is honest. I was lucky, and now I am hopefully less stupid. But focussing on speed as the "Be all and end all" of road safety; bollocsk.

Speed may not be the be all and end all of road safety, but 200kmh+ on a public road is fucking with EVERYONES safety, no other way to see it.

The speed limit isnt just to keep the rider safe you know, also the car trying to pull out and merge from that rural road 300m ahead....at 60m a second that guy would have cut the car in half with no chance to swerve or brake in time

All the bravado about 'I can speed safely' is utter bullshit............... save it for the fuckin racetrack where there are no other road users that can anticipate and judge the fact that headlight coming down the road is travelling twice as fast as they THINK and EXPECT it to be, coz a fast bike moving toward you at 60m a second looks no different to one douing 30m a second for jo public and THATS the issue, not how good the rider is.....


Like it or not its the speed limit and its the law, crying about how good you think you are is just crap unless you have the race trophies to back your ego up and prove how fuckin wonderful you can ride at 200kmh and over............... ( i know I dont)

[steve_t]

save it for the fuckin racetrack

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