Do V-twins have attitude and are inlines boring?

[onearmedbandit]

My IL4 doesn't lack attitude. In fact it drips pure attitude from its teeth of attitude that live in it's attitude infested jaw.

[MaxCannon]

You've all got it wrong.

Flat twin is where it's at.
Power everywhere, great manners and it keeps your legs warm on cold mornings.

[DesmoDAZ]

Love the vee's myself, own two, both Italian,
Attitude, you gotta get hold of one if it's an american vee, LOL
Lets not forget the attitude and sound of the 4 cylinder 500cc 2st GP bikes.

[LBD]

Pfft! The R6 that I'm riding now has way more attitude than any V-Twin I've ridden so far, including a couple of Ducati Monsters

Not my monster it don't

[Little Miss Trouble]

Not my monster it don't

Well if you want to loan it to me so I can compare...

[LBD]

Well if you want to loan it to me so I can compare...

I would be into a swap...I have alway wondered what it feels like, riding a sport bike as hard and fast as possible and being passed by my monster....

[Marmoot]

IL4s are so easy to ride fast. Smooth, easy to handle, abundant power even from 600s, and the modern versions are so light and relatively slimmer.

But Vtwins are much more satisfying when you know how to ride it fast. Slim in nature, feels compact and rigid, and the fact you are relatively underpowered gives that 'hero' feeling when you're running rings around the bigger brothers.
Just make sure you get your tyres, suspensions and handling right on these things and they give back dreams.

I owned both of them.
In my opinion, you would want an IL4 for what it can do. But for a Vtwin, you should only get one if you want it just for what it is.

[LBD]

But Vtwins are much more satisfying when you know how to ride it fast. Slim in nature, feels compact and rigid, and the fact you are relatively underpowered gives that 'hero' feeling when you're running rings around the bigger brothers.
Just make sure you get your tyres, suspensions and handling right on these things and they give back dreams.
.

And HP is over rated...its the torque and nimbleness (As you say) that presses my buzzers....enough to buy a second Vtwin 2 weeks back.

The right tires and setup makes for some very surprised "other " Bikes

[Little Miss Trouble]

I would be into a swap...I have alway wondered what it feels like, riding a sport bike as hard and fast as possible and being passed by my monster....

Huh, how quickly this thread turns into a 'mines bigger than yours' pissing contest, I have no doubt that an S4RS has bucket loads of attitude, you will note I said "...than any V-Twin I've ridden so far..." (650-800cc) My derision was more directed at DB's comments than the Duke's I've ridden.

In saying that, the R6 (two up!) did walk all over a Duke 848 through some fun corners last weekend...

[Marmoot]

And HP is over rated...its the torque and nimbleness (As you say) that presses my buzzers....enough to buy a second Vtwin 2 weeks back.

The right tires and setup makes for some very surprised "other " Bikes

True, passing bigger bikes round the outside on Puke's first, 2nd, 3rd, and last corners is always enjoyable.

Although there's something about smoking someone's exhaust as they zoom past you exiting Castrol on the newest CBR1K. Those are monsters, really.

[Berries]

From a spectators point of view, if you are walking around town then a twin sounds better, it has character. But there is nothing that sounds better than a big four having its neck wrung on the open road. At high revs/speeds twins sound boring IMO.

[Marmoot]

In saying that, the R6 (two up!) did walk all over a Duke 848 through some fun corners last weekend...

848 can be quite awkward on public road. The suspensions are so difficult to set up, for a start. This includes the fact fronts are underdamped/undersprung and rear is oversprung (i think the rear is default to riders around 100kg). Then the sensitivity to tyre pressures, where even 2psi off the recommended mark can upset the handling very much. Then the stiffness, which makes it very difficult to handle in very tight twisties at low speed (cue hairpin style corners). Then the ultra short gearings, or what seems to be (difficult to wheelie....damn italians have no taste).

It's happiest on the track though. Totally a different beast on smooth tarmac and at medium-fast sweepers, especially with good tyres. I've owned a few bikes and I've never had that much pleasure.

I'm curious on how 1098 goes. I heard they are different, not just a "simply larger 848".

R6s are very capable bikes, including the version you have. I wouldn't be surprised if it can go round the 848.

P.S.
Japanese Vtwins (including VTR SP1) with standard exhausts sound like sewing machines

[LBD]

Huh, how quickly this thread turns into a 'mines bigger than yours' pissing contest, I have no doubt that an S4RS has bucket loads of attitude, you will note I said "...than any V-Twin I've ridden so far..." (650-800cc) My derision was more directed at DB's comments than the Duke's I've ridden.

In saying that, the R6 (two up!) did walk all over a Duke 848 through some fun corners last weekend...

is all in friendly jest...and lots come down to riders abilities not the bike..I dare say swap the r6 and the 848 riders and the same riders would have been in front...

And charactor is an individal taste...I think mine has more charactor than yours...you think the opposite

But if your in Chch in Sept.....

[Marmoot]

is all in friendly jest...and lots come down to riders abilities not the bike..I dare say swap the r6 and the 848 riders and the same riders would have been in front...

I beg to differ. Stiff Vtwins take a lot of getting used to.
It would be like a relearning process.

Ask my brother. He's as fast as me on his CBR1K.
And we are as slow as each other when we swap bikes Only I relearn to go faster on his much quicker than he can on mine.

[LBD]

I'm curious on how 1098 goes. I heard they are different, not just a "simply larger 848".

Just cause I owns one does not mean I have ridden one....my next trip home is September (sob) and a full riding impression will be posted soon after