No more domestic applications (but international fine WTF!)

[mashman]

Its simple - if it has the word "arts" in it - make em pay for their useless hobby course.

and night classes - Im glad they are making 'em pay for that as well.

no more BA's then?

[Tank]

no more BA's then?

That would be a good start

[rainman]

cost of papers would be different, as far as I'm aware pretty much all papers are round the $500 mark.

Whoosh! That was you missing my point...

Its simple - if it has the word "arts" in it - make em pay for their useless hobby course.

and night classes - Im glad they are making 'em pay for that as well.

What are the rules for selecting courses acceptable to Tank? Serious question.

[mashman]

That would be a good start

lol, then there'd be no teachers... yeah, that could work

[bogan]

Whoosh! That was you missing my point...

well thanks for explaining what it is I missed :sarcasm:

[cromagnon]

The govt subsidises courses at different rates. I think Universities are given about $6k per student per year for arts, moving through to about $13k per student per year for engineering from the govt. The funding scheme might have changed recently where no extra money is given for extra students. Student fees are on top of those amounts, about $500 per one semester course.

[bogan]

The govt subsidises courses at different rates. I think Universities are given about $6k per student per year for arts, moving through to about $13k per student per year for engineering from the govt. The funding scheme might have changed recently where no extra money is given for extra students. Student fees are on top of those amounts, about $500 per one semester course.

thanks, I didn't realize that, so the government may have set quotas for numbers of students in each course, and financially for the uni it is better if they are international students, seems fair enough, perhaps rather than just not accepting new students, they should just take the top ones, cos we got some drop kicks in some of our papers (mind you the worst was an international student).

[Tank]

lol, then there'd be no teachers... yeah, that could work

Yep - doing a pissy BA on "whatever" then a 12 month 'cross over course' gives NZ the best teachers. Yeah Right!

[allycatz]

My son is at Vic Uni....he says many of the foreign students, especially those from the states, say our fees are still a 'bargain' compared to their home countries

[mashman]

Yep - doing a pissy BA on "whatever" then a 12 month 'cross over course' gives NZ the best teachers. Yeah Right!

lol, whilst true in plenty of cases... you could say that about any qualification... Perhaps we should just ditch the lot and learn on the job

[Marmoot]

Public:
- I want to study This (enter useless degree; e.g., how to kill a mocking bird) even if it is useless just because I like it and it is significant to my culture!
- I can't work because I have ingrown toenails, I need taxpayer to fund my disability.
- I don't wanna get married but I got pregnant so I'm a solo parent. Money plx kthx need lipstick and baby food!
- Our iwi needs new marae!
- I can't find work (in management level) for the last 9 months. I'm unemployed. Halpppp!!!
- Damn, sprained my ankle playing rugby. Can't work! Need food!
- Can't pay moar taxes, soz. 40% income already taxed, 40% for mortgage, and 20% for food+gas.

Government:
- Sorry about that, here's some money. Hope it helps.
- Sorry universities, most money have been spent somewhere else. Not much left for youse.

Universities:
- Classes need to be cleaned. Heaters need maintenance. Computers broken. Bills need to be paid. Can't give free diplomas, sorry.

Overseas students:
- We can pay. U giv degree, yes? I come I giv monies!

Domestic students:
- What about us? We iz want 2 lern too! WAAAAAAHHHH!!!!

So, whose fault is it, really?
A. Domestic students for being poor?
B. Overseas students for having money?
C. Universities for being stingy?
D. Government for not investing in education?
E. Workers for not paying enough tax?
F. Non-workers for not paying tax?
G. Non-capable people for not working....and not paying tax....and taking from the tax pool?
H. Virtually all of the above.
I. [insert your favourite deity here]
J. Terry Serepisos for having weird teeth

[Squiggles]

Unbefuckinlievable... no places for Kiwi students... but plenty for international students...

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...-restrictions/

About fucken time someone took a stand.

[mashman]

So, whose fault is it, really?
D. Government for not investing in education?
J. Terry Serepisos for having weird teeth
K. RICH BASTARDS EVADING PAYING TAX!!!!!!

There's my 2, and 1 more BIGGY for the pot...

[Sentox]

That would be a good start

Hmm. There goes my four years of economics.

Should probably abandon my thesis now

[Dave Lobster]

Besides the crimminal stuff, denying domestic students education and giving it to overseas students-who will then use that education overseas is hardly a good thing.....

I'm pretty sure the point was they're not giving it at all.. hence the cost