Ok, ideas time - NZ MX park?

[scott411]

i am looking for ideas about a mx practice track, want some idea's on what you the riders want,

so fire them at me, and what you are prepared to pay for it, (i mean in per day term)

[Crasherfromwayback]

NZ needs a big oval dirt track so we can finally have some world beating road racers. Round and round they go.

[scott411]

NZ needs a big oval dirt track so we can finally have some world beating road racers. Round and round they go.

how much would you pay to practice there tho

[Crasherfromwayback]

Probably more than your average dirt rider!

[scott411]

Probably more than your average dirt rider!

would they tho? proper supermotord (with dirt) has stuggled in this country, so has speedway bike racing, is the average NZ rider into dirt track racing?

and this is way off topic anyway, what do you want off a mx track

[raglanash]

We pay $15 at Ardmore for 4 hours, thats sweet for a mint maintained track.
Probably pay more if the hours were longer and the track was as good.
Don't think people would mind paying good money if the track was up to scratch, people still pay $35 to ride at kimmys.
Get one put in at Hampton Downs!! It would be perfect, I drive past most days looking at all that clay going to waste.
Where are you thinking of doing this?

[fmxemz]

Somewhere close enough to town so it dosent cost too much to get there but far enough away for people not to complain.
A track were someone who has never raced can come and feel comfortable with every aspect or have two different tracks to keep the learners and stuff from being dominated, plus a kids track ? I dont know? It depends on budget.
But something that caters for all abilitiy levels but dosent bore skilled riders. Your normal... tables, big berms, mean straights, maybe a double or two!
Add a trail loop or 3 haha then you have a sick park!!!

Round 30 bux for a good days riding but maybe if you become a member a members price ? Base it on what people pay to trail ride $25-35 and then to race like normally you will pay 30-50 bux depending on if you have a licence or not plus your race class at race days ?

a girls idea lol

As Raglanash says as long as its maintained well people will pay for a good track!

[bogan]

pretty much what fmxemz said, good location, multiple tracks for differing skill levels (don't skimp on track lengths though). Perhaps a very technical section like romaniacs start would be a bit of fun/laughs, hill climb also. So yeh, huge variation would be ideal, but price accordingly, a single track with moderate grooming i would expect to pay between 10-20 bucks (bit more if its real close though), full on mx park would only pay bout an extra 10 bucks per time, but go far more often. Offering member rates is also a good way to get free labour and help setting up / grooming / marshalling I reckon.

[fmxemz]

Yes i need to work on hill climbing lol in a big way so please include some of these lol i will regret this when im stuck half way up one !!!

[honda_power]

a sx style track would be good... not many places to ride that type of track

[bogan]

Yes i need to work on hill climbing lol in a big way so please include some of these lol i will regret this when im stuck half way up one !!!

oh I meant proper ones, you don't get stuck, you are either going up it, or rolling back down it

[barty5]

Would depend on where it was as to what most would pay and how well it was maintained would seam a lot of people are not happy bout paying for what is at kimmies track cost vs maintained track (i use this track as it always appears to come up). Would need to be a track or maybe two track so as to cater for different level of rider skill so those that are not as confident can get out and dont feel over powered by all those who dominate the track.

[Sunday Casual]

i am looking for ideas about a mx practice track, want some idea's on what you the riders want,

so fire them at me, and what you are prepared to pay for it, (i mean in per day term)

It is about time someone had a brain wave like this. I assume you're talking about a full time, everyday (or there abouts) kinda MX track, Scott? The amount of times that I have been wasting a day off doing nothing except dreaming about riding is something I don't want to think about. I would be prepared to pay a max. of $35.00 a day for a full blown moto track that is professionally maintained and kept up to scratch like over in America. I know it's hard to compare to America, but if that was someones full time job I'm sure it would pay it's way. Look at the likes of Pala raceway or Glen Helen, they are maintained day in and day out, surely if maintaining a motocross track was someones full time job (or a few people's) it wouldn't be too hard.


I just feel that trying to provide a very broad riding area, with a ride range of terrain would be a large challenge and that focussing on one aspect (e.g a full blown motocross track) would be a lot easier. The problem with trying to maintain a range of different riding terrain is that it becomes too hard to keep them all up to scratch and you have problems with keeping it good for riding. For example, Kimmies. I mean that place is good and all but their motocross and enduro loop is nothing to brag about, if they were properly looked after everyday (e.g - grooming and watering) it would be a worthwhile option going there, but the problem with it as it is, is that they haven't been able to maintain all the areas and it is not worth the trip.


If someone were to build, for example, a single purpose motocross track, and not a multi purpose riding area; I'm sure that a killing would be made. Ardmore is an example of this, the numbers that turn up their to ride an often underprepared and inadequate track (In comparison to NZ nations for example) is crazy, it's often hundreds of riders. Don't get me wrong, you will see me at Ardmore on a Wednesday afternoon as they offer a reasonably priced practice track. I would not pay any more for it at the moment but if they were to look after it better, and maintain it properly, I would. If Scott were to make a well prepared, looked after and safe practice track, I know that I would certainly be making the most of it.


Cheers.

[barty5]

And some sorta kids track as well (not just a dirt ring something interesting so they will want to go back)

[Reckless]

The sport is really hard on families when the kids are say High school (or even varsity) but dad is still paying for it all. Even though a lot of the time they are still learners.
3 bike x$30 = $90 plus gas to get there say $70 or more, then bike gas and incidentals can cost $180 - $200 for a family day out not including breakages and tyres etc.
Thats why $20, girls free and the card system ( 6th ride free) is so very good at Thunder X and why we never went to Powers or Kimis.
$25 out the sandpit is good to but hard on the family if they all have bikes over 85cc. Frankly I think Tony is wise at $25, he is making much more money out there at that, than he would with many less people at $35. From the pics on Facebook of last sunday it was packed, I dunno why the others don't see it.

So if you could find a way of creating a family concession even if ID or membership was required that would help the sport grow I reckon.
or a membership card with good benefits to the registered family memberships.

Ash is correct Ardmore is an excellent venue with a generally good maintained track at exceptable rates. ( if you don't have to wait for him to finish watering it for an hour after you turn up) LOL!! But he does have a problem with the locals sabotaging his equipment and the resource parameters preventing him from investing more money, I think??

OK her's a few ideas?

Members
$15 1/2 day 8-12 0r 12-4pm (Dunno if this is a goer but some little ones only last an hour or two)
$25 full day or part of
Females $15 flat rate
Family membership rate $60 per day

Casual riders (non members) $10 bucks on all of the above but $15 on the family rate as its additionally discounted to help members?
A card system is very simple and good ( like thunder X) if you can work it in.

If no membership is planned maybe add $5 to the members rates and go with that but implement the loyalty card system so your frequent riders get rewarded say every 5th ride free?

I dunno just a few thoughts we don't have to much of a problem now my son is working but a couple of years ago we only rode when we could afford it Max 2 times a month at best and 90% Thunder X. We still don't go Kimis or Powers rides as we are put off them because of the old days I suppose?

Anyway there's probably lots of holes in the above but hope these thoughts help?? Depends a little on what type of rider you are trying to attract if its all the single fast guys forget the above LOL!!!