To all friends of Backfire/Rayza

[Big Dog]

The following is posted on behalf of the family:


To all friends ofBack Fire / Rayza,
The time has come that the family of our fallen Friend / Comrade / Brother has to face one of the biggest challenges a family can face, the formal inquest.

We will not be discussing any of the evidence in the case with anyone before the inquest, on line or offline, unless they are a qualified lawyer and wish to represent the family at inquest.

No family looks forward to such proceedings with any sort of pleasure but given the nature of his passing this is going to be a difficult one and the outcome will affect us all. The outcome will affect every user of a public road on a motorcycle. Whether you know it or not, this means you.

The purpose of this post is to seek help. We need it. Back Fire / Rayza needs it. You need it.
What we need is either a qualified lawyer (preferably with inquest experience) or some financial support towards hiring one.

The bank account details below are for the trust account set up to pay for the costs of the long list of people so far involved in our inquiry into what has occurred has been extensive and continues to grow.

We have reached point we can no longer go on alone and we can no longer go on without a lawyer.
From
the family of Back Fire / Rayza.


Account name: Mr J G Evans and Mrs K E Evans and others.
Account number: 12-3034-0159224-50

Please reference your donations to "Dans Truth Fund"
If you want the family to know who it is from please append your handle on to the reference and PM me your message so I can pass your message on to them.

Your support is appreciated in this time of great personal loss that has now also become a time of great financial burden.

[Morcs]

Fuck off Katman.

Ill be making a donation on payday.

[Big Dog]

On a seperate note: if you have photos or video of Dan that the Family may not have copies of please post them in this thread or email them to me at bigdogonamtabike@gmail.com

[Genestho]

I wish the Evan's family all the best with the Inquest.

I have been advised in regards to our three family's upcoming part II of inquest that having a lawyer rep is of no further advantage and couldn't do more than you're able to do yourself, whether or not this is applicable here - I'm not sure.
However, seeking advise prior is a good thing.

Addressing the Evans family: You can represent yourselves/Dan, and submit any and all information and/or research regarded relevant, in terms of: How to prevent this tragedy from happening again.

You can only ask direct questions of witnesses on the day - who attend, that have made statements within the crash report as I understand it, whether you can invite outside or expert witnesses, that needs to be cleared with the Coroner (if you haven't already)

You can also list all questions and send to the coroners office prior to the inquest, so all questions will be covered where possible (again - if you haven't already) and of course add more on the day as witnesses step up and the process unfolds.

Simply put - the coroners court is not to determine blame, but to determine the findings of this crash, and prevention of another similar episode, publicise these findings, and the Coroner is now able to make recomendations at a Govt level (for want of better words)

My personal opinion, having gone through part I, is the only differences between having a lawyer represent or not, is money, and that they ask the questions, submit the info, and pick up details for more questions - if you're unable to.
Anyone and everyone within the family who attends is able to share the 'details' burden.

It is harrowing, but possibly a weight off - whichever way you go.

Again, Best wishes from our family, to yours.

[scott411]

I wish the Evan's family all the best with the Inquest.

I have been advised in regards to our three family's upcoming part II of inquest that having a lawyer rep is of no further advantage and couldn't do more than you're able to do yourself, whether or not this is applicable here - I'm not sure.
However, seeking advise prior is a good thing.

Addressing the Evans family: You can represent yourselves/Dan, and submit any and all information and/or research regarded relevant, in terms of: How to prevent this tragedy from happening again.

You can only ask direct questions of witnesses on the day - who attend, that have made statements within the crash report as I understand it, whether you can invite outside or expert witnesses, that needs to be cleared with the Coroner (if you haven't already)

You can also list all questions and send to the coroners office prior to the inquest, so all questions will be covered where possible (again - if you haven't already) and of course add more on the day as witnesses step up and the process unfolds.

Simply put - the coroners court is not to determine blame, but to determine the findings of this crash, and prevention of another similar episode, publicise these findings, and the Coroner is now able to make recomendations at a Govt level (for want of better words)

My personal opinion, having gone through part I, is the only differences between having a lawyer represent or not, is money, and that they ask the questions, submit the info, and pick up details for more questions - if you're unable to.
Anyone and everyone within the family who attends is able to share the 'details' burden.

It is harrowing, but possibly a weight off - whichever way you go.

Again, Best wishes from our family, to yours.

having been through corners court as well, this is very good advice, it is not a trail as such or laying blame, it is more looking on how to prevent a similar event occuring,

[Ryder]

To everyone who is reading this thread:

I am Dan's sister. FYI: We (the Evans family) have been advised to get a lawyer by all people who have full knowledge and information regarding the case, Dan's accident and, all factors involved in it. We have no more money left, no capacity to cope mentally or emationally anymore, and are asking for help. Your help does not have to be monetary. If you know a lawyer that can help us that will not cost us a fortune please let us know.

I cannot share any information regarding the inquest or the accident, however I can honestly assure you that this will in the end affect us ALL.

Those of you that do not wish to help or have ill feelings regarding our cry for help from fellow riders in the KB community should not feel the need to do so. Please bare in mind that the rest of my family are also on KB and will read this thread so if you do not have anything nice to say do not say anything at all. Have a heart and have some respect for a fallen rider and the grieving family that they have left behind. Ever heard the term "sticks and stones..."? - Well in this case words hurt more!

Just remember there are always two sides to every story. And rumors are just that - rumors. A rumor isn't a truth just because you've heard someone say it somewhere. Things are not always as they appear so please have an open mind and an open heart.

This thread was a cry for help not an invite to discuss how someone has or hasn't passed away so please stay on topic and keep the nasty comments to yourself.

Thank you to all who have offered kind words and encouragement. Thank you to all who have said they will donate to our cause; to Dan's cause. And an even bigger thank you to those that have stuck by us (the Evans family) through this terrible experience, have been there every step of the way, and have helped us keep Dan's memory alive - you all know who you are.

Cheers.

[Ryder]

Thank you for the responses I have received in the last couple of minutes. I have been asked by someone to PM them via the rep system. I am so sorry but I dont know who you are....your handle doesn't appear because I don't have enough rep to see who people are when they rep you yet.
...Wow that was a mouthful to get out!
If you PM me to let me know who you are I am PM you back. Apologies for the inconvenience. :slap:

[sunhuntin]

i still think of dan quite often, even though i never met him. his memory helps keep me in check when riding, thinking of the what ifs. ryder, i wish you and your family all the best in the coming weeks and months.

[roadracingoldfart]

Dont shoot me or give me crap but who and in what particular event are we refering to here. I dont live in a cave but would like to know a bit more about the situation before i hand out money (which i am happy to do and have before) but if we dont know we cant comit.
ps; by we , i mean myself and Dianne.

Thanks Paul.

[Ryder]

Dont shoot me or give me crap but who and in what particular event are we refering to here. I dont live in a cave but would like to know a bit more about the situation before i hand out money (which i am happy to do and have before) but if we dont know we cant comit.
ps; by we , i mean myself and Dianne.

Thanks Paul.

Hi Paul.

My brother died on the wire rope barriers in 2007 not long after his 21st birthday. His handle was originally Rayza but he later changed it to Backfire. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/transit-nz...ectid=10471320

We (the Evans family) are asking for help - donations, lawyers details and recommendations, anything help us with the inquest. We are financially unable to cope and are also incapable of coping emotionally or mentally. We are all still grieving badly and the situation is extremely overwhelming for all of us. My dad was going to represent himself but he can't face it and neither can the rest of us. It is just altogether too much. We would like a legal representative for the inquest and anything that may follow afterward.

[roadracingoldfart]

Thanks for that info , i was very much in the dark as to what the post meant .
Best wishes to you and your family.

[phill-k]

Agree with TGW as regards the hearing. Having attended my brothers hearing and as I had some understanding of the operations surrounding his death I asked many questions, which in turn lead to the coroner to include in his findings aspects of where my questioning went.
The Coroners court is not as formal as the district/high court, generally doesn't attract the "public" and you do not need to take the stand to ask questions, this can be from your seat You can ask your questions yourself or submit them to the coroner or police personal who conduct the inquiry.
A lawyer is only going to be able to ask questions you provide him, they will not contribute as such to the outcome because of their skills as a lawyer, perhaps consider someone who is a family friend to ask your questions. The hearing is not about apportioning blame as such, although the circumstances surrounding the death could lead to the coroner making recommendations to any relevant authorities, along with officially confirming cause of death. If there are questions of law, or if the coroner needs to seek advice on aspects surrounding the accident he may well adjourn the hearing to seek expert opinion, his outcome will then be delivered at a second hearing as occurred with my brothers. The coroner is not a judge who weighs up any evidence presented, or directs a jury too, rather he is an investigator, and will initiate a lot of the questioning of witnesses himself.
It is really important as a part of your grieving that you attend, at the very least it will hopefully allow your family to move forward.

[RiderInBlack]

Will transfer some money as soon as I get off here (done). Was at Backfire's funeral and think of him often as I ride near those dam WRB.

As for Katman, can someone please send him ta the sin bin

[Insanity_rules]

Good luck with everything.

[Big Dog]

Dont shoot me or give me crap but who and in what particular event are we refering to here. I dont live in a cave but would like to know a bit more about the situation before i hand out money (which i am happy to do and have before) but if we dont know we cant comit.
ps; by we , i mean myself and Dianne.

Thanks Paul.

Hard to know how much detail to give. We were reluctant to ask for help in the first place.

Dan was a humble kind of guy.

I did not know him that well myself, only met him a few times.

What I knew before he died was that he was a bit of a charachter and an extraordinary talent who never asked for anything not even when he was hungry and had spent his dinner money on gas for coming to the ATNR.

What I have learned since is that he was a humble sort who would do anything for another tank of gas.
He never set out to set the world ablaze, but wanted to make his mark.
He spent hours washing his bike whenever he had no gas.
He gave money he could barely spare to the hospice. Often his lunch money.

The appeal is on here because Dan saw kiwibiker as his second family.
Kiwibiker and more importantly the people on here were more than just some people sharing some cyberspace.

They were people he understood.