Pre89 Senior YSS Suspension FZR1000, Vic R1

[nzkr1]

Thanks Robert,
I am well aware of your product and the service you offer.
Thanks for the 'sell' but it wasn't you I was asking sorry.

Disappointing for you that the world isn't queueing solely at your door but 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'

Cheers

Well said, who does he think he is this RT. Probably thinks he's going to miss out on a sale. Best you get hold of Kerry Dukic, he's the MAN with the suspension know how.

[codgyoleracer]

Interested to know what you've fitted to the bike? Just rear shock or emulators as well?
I don't race so PM me if you'd rather not tell the world

Also a ballpark $$$$$ figure (retail)

Hi Mate
Yeah we fitted a custom built X506-TRCL rear unit, which is one of their higher spec shocks & inc ride height adjuster etc. The price was $1149 inc gst and also includes a custom spring and comp / reb valve setting to suit your wieght / bike & riding or racing choices. If the first setting isnt right then when sourced through Dukic Suspension they will revalve / re-spring FOC until satisfied. Dukic turned up at the track to dial my one for me on a test day & we made real good progress.
We had YSS PD Valves in the front end + a set of slightly heavier springs to help eliminate some of the FZR spongeness for track use.
Cheers for the question
Glen Williams

[Rcktfsh]

just ignore robert he is a nob

Compression or Rebound?

Well said, who does he think he is this RT. Probably thinks he's going to miss out on a sale. Best you get hold of Kerry Dukic, he's the MAN with the suspension know how.

Well pointed out KR1 I'm sure all the riders he's led astray over the years from Stroudy, Bugden, Shirrifs and the like to club racers will appreciate your insightfull advice.

[Robert Taylor]

Thanks Robert,
I am well aware of your product and the service you offer.
Thanks for the 'sell' but it wasn't you I was asking sorry.

Disappointing for you that the world isn't queueing solely at your door but 'you pays your money and you takes your choice'

Cheers

No certainly each to their own and having one of the very top products ( chosen by the best racers and many discerning road riders ) we cannot compete on price with the more cheaply made products. People think the price of our product is way up there ( which it actually isnt in most cases ) I was just illustrating whats possible with such a product and there are some well known issues with some of the cheaper products. With the said cheaper product we have removed 3 sets recently because the customers were highly dissatisfied with them.
Id prefer that people are not confused into thinking a product is better than it actually is, the strength of a product is not solely measured if one very top racer is using it to an ok standard, its also if a lot of other ordinary everyday customers are satisfied. That the jury is very much not in agreement on.
We also have 25 years of experience to back up our products.

[codgyoleracer]

No certainly each to their own and having one of the very top products ( chosen by the best racers and many discerning road riders ) we cannot compete on price with the more cheaply made products. People think the price of our product is way up there ( which it actually isnt in most cases ) I was just illustrating whats possible with such a product and there are some well known issues with some of the cheaper products. With the said cheaper product we have removed 3 sets recently because the customers were highly dissatisfied with them.
Id prefer that people are not confused into thinking a product is better than it actually is, the strength of a product is not solely measured if one very top racer is using it to an ok standard, its also if a lot of other ordinary everyday customers are satisfied. That the jury is very much not in agreement on.
We also have 25 years of experience to back up our products.

I certainly have no doubt about the performance and the excellent service that Robert Taylor and the team at CKT provide folks, His gear and advice is as good as anyones out there IMO. I have also been pleasantly surprised though by the initial performance of the YSS equipment and also the product support services provided by long standing industry supplier W Whites of Hamilton (the importer) and their technical support person Kerry at Dukic Suspenion in Wellywood.

[PeeJay]

With the said cheaper product we have removed 3 sets recently because the customers were highly dissatisfied with them.

Are you referring to YSS shocks as the "said cheaper product" ?

[steveyb]

Is there a can of worms emoticon on here anywhere?

[Robert Taylor]

Are you referring to YSS shocks as the "said cheaper product" ?

I think thats pretty obvious. It happens in all industries and its just the same in this industry. If people start passing off cheaper products as being just as good as the top products ( in the motorcycle suspension world being WP, Penske, Ohlins ) then they will be deluding both themselves and their customers.
There is a place for cheaper products but they should never be in any way misrepresented as being better than what they actually are. That is my point and I think its a fair one.

[Robert Taylor]

Well said, who does he think he is this RT. Probably thinks he's going to miss out on a sale. Best you get hold of Kerry Dukic, he's the MAN with the suspension know how.

No, never any thought of a sale.

Would someone like to substaniate the enormous amount of incredible stories from the same fantasist?

[roadracingoldfart]

Is there a can of worms emoticon on here anywhere?

YUPP rite next to the Foot in Mouth emoticon Steve

[nzkr1]

No, never any thought of a sale.

Would someone like to substaniate the enormous amount of incredible stories from the same fantasist?

Who cares, he tells a few stories, always taken with a grain of salt. He's also pretty good at suspension set up.

[PeeJay]

they should never be in any way misrepresented as being better than what they actually are. That is my point and I think its a fair one.

A fair point but it applies to the full spectrum of products not just the "cheap" ones

[Robert Taylor]

Who cares, he tells a few stories, always taken with a grain of salt. He's also pretty good at suspension set up.

More than a few people beg to differ, been there tried that, got sick of crashing and with really stupid setups that were getting them nowhere. That gives suspension tuners in general a bad name. We also have our ''failures'' but our ratio is appreciably lower and we persist in sorting out issues rather than hoodwinking them into thinking a solution that just isnt going to work. For example a 13 newton spring recommended and fitted to a CBR600 for an average weight rider, that just sends the wheel force rate ballistic. THAT IS THE REALLY DUMB STUFF THAT IS BEING DONE. And how do you know you are not being spun a line given all the fantastic stories of ''deeds glorious and victorious'' in previous incarnations going back at least 100 years.

Sorry, I have no time for brazen BS and ego, and those that perpetuate it.

[scracha]

Sorry, I have no time for brazen BS and ego, and those that perpetuate it.

Two words:- Jelly Wrestling

[PeeJay]

you cant help yourself can you.
Your lifes mantra is
"if its not Ohlins its crap"
Further refined as
"if its not Ohlins bought from the only authorised dealer in NZ its crap"
and
"if you dont use ohlins, then by definition you are crap, dont know what you are doing and are going to die"

Noone disputes that Ohlins is one of the best suspensions available, but dare anyone try anything different.
GW wins and its an OK result by a top rider.
Your way of saying
despite the suspension he won. If you arent a top rider and you choose YSS you are in trouble
If he fell off you would be all over here crowing about the suspension liberally peppered with "I told you so"
If an ohlins mounted rider falls off, well that was tyres, or the rider, the track, it definitely wasnt the suspension.

Noone is slagging off the ohlins equipped bikes that DIDNT win. (they obviously dont know how to ride because there is nothing wrong with their suspension, fact.)

Is it so hard to just say "great result, good on you" without having a dig at GW's team because they dared to be a little different?