MNZ AGM, anyone got any news?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th May 2010, 17:07

Originally Posted by gixerracer

I cant remember the last time someone on a 250 even went close to going fast no one knows how to tune or ride them properly I dont thinkthe current f3 front runner have mcuh to worrie about at this stage

That's because you haven't been round for that long! But Simon Turner and Bruce Ainstey were both pretty handy on them...and tuning them ain't magic. I can assure you if someone with some skill got hold of a late model one...it'd be bye bye SV650!

**jellywrestler** · 26th May 2010, 17:31

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

That's because you haven't been round for that long! But Simon Turner and Bruce Ainstey were both pretty handy on them...and tuning them ain't magic. I can assure you if someone with some skill got hold of a late model one...it'd be bye bye SV650!

Ant Young was a weapon on a 250 too. Anstey held the lap record at Ruapuna over and above the Britten too 250's go like a Raped duck with the right set-up

**steveyb** · 26th May 2010, 17:37

Originally Posted by gixerracer

I cant remember the last time someone on a 250 even went close to going fast no one knows how to tune or ride them properly I dont thinkthe current f3 front runner have mcuh to worrie about at this stage

Good on ya.

**Kickaha** · 26th May 2010, 17:39

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

Ant Young was a weapon on a 250 too. Anstey held the lap record at Ruapuna over and above the Britten too 250's go like a Raped duck with the right set-up

You sure about that?
I thought the fastest 250GP was Hayen Bool at around the 1.34-35 mark while the Britten had the outright bike record at 1.32 which stood until Stroud broke it at the John Britten Memorial meeting

**k14** · 26th May 2010, 17:44

Well here is a good comparison. Jay Lawrence riding a RS250 in 2007 in the Spirit of Speed at teretonga nationals. He won with a fastest lap of 1.02.9. This year's fastest F3 lap was 1.03.7 by Terry Fitzgerald. So just under a second slower and that is 3 years later. In 06 F3 was doing pretty much same lap times. 600's were in mid 60s lap times. Teretonga would be the least favourable for the 250 too, at the rest of the tracks it would be even more beneficial to the 250. I think that is probably the best comparison in recent years and definately shows a good rider on decent bike would clean up very easily. It all depends on how many of them show up!

Edit: Forgot to say, got laptimes off mylaps here

**Kiwi Graham:Me** · 26th May 2010, 17:51

Originally Posted by Maido

Straight off Ian's Face palm page:.........

Back from Motorcycling New Zealand AGM in Wellington, Great weekend . Mike Pero is the new Patron of Motorcycling New Zealand

Unofficially Looks like Supers and Superstock could possibly be aligned with Aussie rules and 250GPs are in Formula 3.All discussed all still to be ratified. Three races per round for Supers 600 etc. And a superpole style qualifying.
New Names for Classes. Superbike , Superstock 1000 , Supersport , Superstock 600. F3 now SPORTBIKE. 250 4 Strokes now to be Super-Lite , run with streetstock.
125GP and Sidecar names still the same....
Rounds still to be decided , have had 4 Clubs express interest. Dates to be decided and number of rounds should be decided within a month. Order of rounds and time of year may not be the usual.
Other proposed rules tabled. New Jumped Start Rule and Starting proceedure, New rule for opening and closing of pit lane and formation on grid.Recommendation that complete set of flags on every marshall post (including red flag).
New tyre allocation rule. Bar coded tyre checking may be tried.Suspension will be open , in all classes except 600 Superstock should the Australian rules be adopted. In this class the suspension will be modified stock.
BMW 1000 has been requested by BMW NZ for homologation and is currently being processed.Aprillia and KTM have yet to file homolgation requests.This must be done for the national series , but is fine for everything else.

Any idea when it will all be ratified?

Super pole!!

like the idea but its going to make for a long day!

**Kickaha** · 26th May 2010, 17:59

Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham

Super pole!!

like the idea but its going to make for a long day!

Super pole!!

Hate the idea, it's going to make for a long day, especially as they run out of time now

**k14** · 26th May 2010, 18:23

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Super pole!!

Hate the idea, it's going to make for a long day, especially as they run out of time now

Yeah agree, waste of time and will be boring for everyone. Most of the tracks have terrible sound systems so you can't hear the commentary properly. Secondly they have no intermediate timing beacons so you have no idea if the rider is doing any good till he crosses the line.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th May 2010, 18:27

Originally Posted by k14

Well here is a good comparison. Jay Lawrence riding a RS250 in 2007 in the Spirit of Speed at teretonga nationals. He won with a fastest lap of 1.02.9. This year's fastest F3 lap was 1.03.7 by Terry Fitzgerald. So just under a second slower and that is 3 years later. In 06 F3 was doing pretty much same lap times. 600's were in mid 60s lap times. Teretonga would be the least favourable for the 250 too, at the rest of the tracks it would be even more beneficial to the 250. I think that is probably the best comparison in recent years and definately shows a good rider on decent bike would clean up very easily. It all depends on how many of them show up!

Edit: Forgot to say, got laptimes off mylaps here

No disrespect to Jay...but I don't think he's in Simon or Bruce's league...especially not on a GP bike.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 26th May 2010, 18:28

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

Ant Young was a weapon on a 250 too. Anstey held the lap record at Ruapuna over and above the Britten too 250's go like a Raped duck with the right set-up

Never come up against Ant. He started racing 250 proddies when I finished, and I started racing 883's when he'd finished! But did he actually ride a GP bike?

**k14** · 26th May 2010, 18:32

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

No disrespect to Jay...but I don't think he's in Simon or Bruce's league...especially not on a GP bike.

Never said he was, just said good rider on a decent spec bike would clean up. Now get a great rider and a well spec'd 250 and they would make the 600's look slow.

**Ivan** · 26th May 2010, 18:35

Originally Posted by k14

Never said he was, just said good rider on a decent spec bike would clean up. Now get a great rider and a well spec'd 250 and they would make the 600's look slow.

Will agree with you there for sure and theres more than a few people in this country capable of doing that

**cowpoos** · 26th May 2010, 18:46

Originally Posted by gixerracer

I cant remember the last time someone on a 250 even went close to going fast no one knows how to tune or ride them properly I dont thinkthe current f3 front runner have mcuh to worrie about at this stage

So you won't be racing one??? it would blow less smoke than your CBR :P

**gixerracer** · 26th May 2010, 19:29

Been round longer than that I raced both of them, U missed my point no one in recent times bruce been gone for more than 10 yrs and simon not much less tell me the last time someone in nz lapped a track faster ona gp250 than current f3 times you will be going along way back

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

That's because you haven't been round for that long! But Simon Turner and Bruce Ainstey were both pretty handy on them...and tuning them ain't magic. I can assure you if someone with some skill got hold of a late model one...it'd be bye bye SV650!