Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

[Flip]

I am a long way off being Generation Y, and of course your argument veers from something that sounds faintly logical to ad hominem in two sentences.

Please explain to me how 99 kph is safe, and 104kph, is "unsafe" on the same road with the same traffic ie. the only variable being a 5% speed differential? because I'm struggling to see it.

It is dangerous because of the mind set that a lot of riders have where they believe they have the god given right to speed. Just because they have very powerful bike, does not mean they can power out of a dangerous situation. Just because they are a small "soft" radar target and difficult to lock onto means they can speed around and mix it in and out of the traffic flow with impunity. This I can speed because I am on a race bike mentality works fine on the race track where the risks of other traffic and unexpected road hazards are being managed by others but in the real world this mindset prevents the rider identifying and correctly taking steps to manage the normal unexpected day to day road hazards, which catch him out.

[rastuscat]

That would be so sweet.

Like the time when the wifes car was vandalized (they did try to steal it) and some of her belongings were stolen (with considerable monetry and personal value) and she rang the police and they were just too damn busy, so fobbed her off.

And then 3km down the road we were stopped and had the wof inspected by an entire team of cops manning a roadblock.

And then they lost the police report so we had a shit fight with the insurance company, But the fuckers never lose the fuckin paper work for a WOF ticket do they?

Little peasant assholes, I should have caved some heads in that night.

Here we go again.

21% of the Police total funding gets funded from the National Transport Fund on road policing. So 21% of the toal expenditure should be on road policing, but isnt. Road funding is subsidising other forms of policing.

Cut the 21% and you'll see a loss of other forms of Policing, not just road policing.

So the Govt pays 21% of our funding and expects us to do Road Policing.

Is it really our job to decide the priorities and misuse funds to make evryone like us more?

So there.

[miloking]

Well perhaps you should pull your head out of your arse and realise that it's attitudes like yours that will likely make it a reality.

OK Mr.Katman...iam open minded but as BoristheBiter says iam also ignorat fuck, so tell me what to say and how to behave so it does not become reality???

[FJRider]

They dont need a reason to stop vehicles now .... and once they have your rego number, all your vehicle details are known.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh for heavens sake Stephen, get over the revenue gathering thing.

Tickets for 5 km/h over get a $30 fine. I could stake out any stop sign in the country and make $150 per time, any time of any day. If it were about revenue gathering, why would I nonce around with $30?

So there.

Its not about revenue gathering, its about social control. Hilarious innit? You all thought Unkle Helen was the engineer of a despotic nanny state! BAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA it turns out that that nice man John Key and his particularly unlovely bunch of fuckers are more despotic than unkle helen at her wild wooliest worst. AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA !!!

I am moving to Straya where a man can be free and stuff.

Yeah! take that John Key and his lumpy minions. You can drive as fast as you like over there and the po po give you a medal and shit.

[shrub]

So the Govt pays 21% of our funding and expects us to do Road Policing.

Is it really our job to decide the priorities and misuse funds to make evryone like us more?.

And there you have it. While there are some cops that are cocks and probably get a hit out of issuing tickets for 61 kmh, and would rather sit on the side of the road in their Holden Commode waiting for an excuse to pull you up, the decision to run WOF checkpoints instead of investigating crime is ultimately a government decision because Our Masters tell the men and women who run the police force what to do. If you want to see less cops handing out invoices and more cops investigating burglaries, bale up your MP and tell him that's what you want.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Oh for heavens sake Stephen, get over the revenue gathering thing.

Tickets for 5 km/h over get a $30 fine. I could stake out any stop sign in the country and make $150 per time, any time of any day. If it were about revenue gathering, why would I nonce around with $30?

So there.

as a concerned citizen, ratepayer and taxpayer, I have to ask: "Well, why dont you?" surely the road safety imperative in obeying a Stop sign is self evident, even to that nice Mr Broad.? I mean really

[Headbanger]

Here we go again.


So there.

Don't care, Do better.

And I mean the entire organization, right to the top, If you can't respond to crime (and have no doubt, the little fuck that smashed our car would get up to the same shit day every day of his life and cause millions of dollars worth of damage) but can issue tickets then the system is fucked.

No excuses needed, a spade is a spade.

[Flip]

And there you have it. While there are some cops that are cocks and probably get a hit out of issuing tickets for 61 kmh, and would rather sit on the side of the road in their Holden Commode waiting for an excuse to pull you up, the decision to run WOF checkpoints instead of investigating crime is ultimately a government decision because Our Masters tell the men and women who run the police force what to do. If you want to see less cops handing out invoices and more cops investigating burglaries, bale up your MP and tell him that's what you want.

A very good friend of mine who was a cop and was killed by a truck while riding home used to say they catch up with a lot of crims doing all the random wof and license checks. The crims have not caught onto not driving around in normal average vehicles but seem to have old shitters or those big new American Chrysler cars.

[imdying]

And those that say it could never happen may well have a rude shock in store.

You'd be a fool to say never, but it's pretty unlikely. Too many people with too much money have an interest in bikes. And those with the money make the rules.

Hey if 130 is like walking on CBR, can you imagine what it must be like in a latest S-Class or some ferrari.... are they going to ban those first too? I mean if you are banning anything thats fun it should be in order of Unprotected sex->Bikes->Cars->Drugs->Guns-Alcohol...etc.

I'm picking it'll be a lot easier to start with bikes than Ferraris, you have to be pretty cashed up to get one of those, see above comment.

[miloking]

A very good friend of mine who was a cop and was killed by a truck while riding home used to say they catch up with a lot of crims doing all the random wof and license checks. The crims have not caught onto not driving around in normal average vehicles but seem to have old shitters or those big new American Chrysler cars.

Ohh ok so when they see iam not a crim why do i still get a ticket for something...at their random "Wof/crim" check...also is it just a lazy way to catch criminals while the smart and more dangerours ones are definately not caught this way!?
But complacent cops believe that by catching few idiots who had some weed on them or forgot to apear in court is catching the real criminals....

Sorry to hear about your friend though...cop or not.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It is dangerous because of the mind set that a lot of riders have where they believe they have the god given right to speed. Just because they have very powerful bike, does not mean they can power out of a dangerous situation. Just because they are a small "soft" radar target and difficult to lock onto means they can speed around and mix it in and out of the traffic flow with impunity. This I can speed because I am on a race bike mentality works fine on the race track where the risks of other traffic and unexpected road hazards are being managed by others but in the real world this mindset prevents the rider identifying and correctly taking steps to manage the normal unexpected day to day road hazards, which catch him out.

Um, doesnt answer the question.

You postulated an entirely different set of circumstances and motivations from the ones I was postulating.

[miloking]

You'd be a fool to say never, but it's pretty unlikely. Too many people with too much money have an interest in bikes. And those with the money make the rules.
I'm picking it'll be a lot easier to start with bikes than Ferraris, you have to be pretty cashed up to get one of those, see above comment.

Having a "genius moment" right now

...we have to get rich and powerful people into motorcycling! Asap!

[The Stranger:Me]

This should be interesting.

"Police will be out in force over the holiday period and will prosecute every driver caught more than 4km/h over the speed limit to help deter unsafe driving which puts lives at risk."

http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/24091.html

Surely it raises questions about the speed limit. If say 104 is "that bad" how much safer really is 100?

Obviously all speed limits should be dropped to 30kph. Who cares if you only get half a day at your destination on anniversary weekend - remember, it's about the journey, not the destination.
Better still, to stop this ghastly carnage by motor vehicles ban the lot of them!

[Headbanger]

Awesome police work, They hang out and wait for the crims to come to them, and they identify them by their car.

ffs.

How could anyone put this crap forward as a legit method is beyond me. Sounds more like how you would catch a bus.