Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

[MSTRS:Me]

- as for the toddler, that is news to me...

I won't respond to the rest, but the toddler one...definitely happened. Was a dog unit doing the kindy PR thing, as had done for some while. Dog went for the kid's face. Was at Cook St Kindy in Taradale. And the kid only approached the dog when invited by the cop/handler to come pat it.

[Patrick]

Goodness, next thing the cops will be doing people for a breath alcohol level of 416mcgm - oh wait, they already do people for only 400, the legal limit, oh my!!

And we all know 400 is Really Dangerous (tm) whereas 399 is perfectly safe......

And 104kph?
I don't give a shit, I won't be getting any tickets for that kind of speed....nor will I be dishing out any for the same speed either...

Ditto - none of my crew are even going there either..... MIght let you all know how many 4-10k tickets are issued locally. My guess...? A big fat 0.......................

[Patrick]

.... Nothing, including Urgent Duty Driving exempts Police, Fire or Ambos to that rule.

Yet how many Emergency vehicles do you see exceeding the limit daily?

My rant over..

You're shitting me...... You really think that Ambos, shouldn't rush to help heart attack victims, Fireys shouldn't rush to put out fires and Police shouldn't rush to whatever crime is happening? This is a pisstake, surely.....?????????

Cops do get tickets. I even got two in one morning. Go figure.

[MSTRS:Me]

Shock! Horror! Cops ignoring orders?
Or is this just a cunning ploy to make us all relax?

[Smifffy]

Newton described the laws of motion, which are but three of the laws of physics, that have been described by many great thinkers. There are screeds of books on this. Newton also realised that there are things that scientists call measurement error. The sum of the measurement errors affects the final result, and is often called the degree, or level, of accuracy. As I said in my earlier post I am naieve enough to believe that there have been numerous studies, and maybe even "screeds of books and topics out there on this".

What I wanted, was for someone who actually understood these concepts to comment on what international best practicice considers to be the margin of error in these mathematical calculations of yours.

Your comment about the +20 only reinforces my view that the predators have decided not to take on the raging bulls, but target the slower moving among the herd.

Happy Hunting.

As for the child abuse thing, I guess the IPCA report hasn't trickled down to your level yet.

Detectives deal with Child Abuse. They don't do traffic in any way, shape or form - never have, never will.

Courts do the fines enforcement. They are pretty good down these parts..... seizing cars, bikes, property all the time....

Everyone over the limit, who is stopped, is done - be it 1mg over or whatever is over - its over....

WOF and Regos - all the time. Removing them fromthe orads? Pink and green stickerews issued daily, butlike anything, just ignored by the recipient. Mobile crushing would be a more permanent fix.

Can't manage to stop the +20?????? Yer what? How can one spin around to stop em, if we can't do more than 2km over the limit for fear of a pursuit crash......?

The reality is, that is what is being done - nothing new here at all..... Moving on.....

Degree of accuracy? Hard to tell an exact accuracy, but Newtons Laws Of Physics give a good indication of speeds based on mathematical calculations - there is screeds of books and topics out there on this.

[oldrider]

Detectives deal with Child Abuse. They don't do traffic in any way, shape or form - never have, never will.

Courts do the fines enforcement. They are pretty good down these parts..... seizing cars, bikes, property all the time....

Everyone over the limit, who is stopped, is done - be it 1mg over or whatever is over - its over....

WOF and Regos - all the time. Removing them fromthe orads? Pink and green stickerews issued daily, butlike anything, just ignored by the recipient. Mobile crushing would be a more permanent fix.

Can't manage to stop the +20?????? Yer what? How can one spin around to stop em, if we can't do more than 2km over the limit for fear of a pursuit crash......?

The reality is, that is what is being done - nothing new here at all..... Moving on.....

Degree of accuracy? Hard to tell an exact accuracy, but Newtons Laws Of Physics give a good indication of speeds based on mathematical calculations - there is screeds of books and topics out there on this.

After the cops have done all this, some smart arsed lawyer and a piss weak judge end up letting them off or slapping them with a wet bus ticket!

The cops wear the brunt and we pay for it!

[Patrick]

.......How about breath alcohol testing? Very few of us carry a device that informs you if you're near the 401 limit, and on top of that there is no tolerence.

The evidential machine will read 399 and 400, but not read 401. I think 401 up to 440, it rounds it down to 400.

Blood results are the same. The actual level will be taken down by 5 or 6 points and that is the level one will be done for, (if over, of course....)

There is a "tolerance."

[Patrick]

HAHA the irony http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...-loses-licence

He sped up to a overtake a car he had been following at between 85 and 95kmh.

"I put the foot down to overtake, broke the rules and got caught," he said. The car he was passing had sped up to 105kmh during the passing manoeuvre, a fact noted by the ticketing officer, he said.

That offence took him to over 100 demerit points, the limit at which a driver's licence is automatically suspended"


We will see much more of those after this weekend, this is awesome..

(if it was any of us mortals got caught doing 142 and not mayor or large city we would also be "appearing in court" on dangerous driving charge...)

WRONG....

42 over is an instant fine ($400) and instant loss of license for 28 days, be you the mayor or miloking.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I wonder how many phone books were slipped into his casket I know of at least one well Yellow Pages actually!!!

What is the significance of this?

[HenryDorsetCase]

I did however keep myself mildly amused through a good chunk of the day, so I am moderately satisfied.

same. (ten characters)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Your comment about the +20 only reinforces my view that the predators have decided not to take on the raging bulls, but target the slower moving among the herd.

Um, thats what predators DO. Survival of the fittest etc. To use your metaphor, everytime one "speeds", one demonstrates ones superior ability and fitness for procreation.

Now we all know.

[Patrick]

How does percieved risk deserve punishment? Its just that...percieved, nothing more.

And yes at the end of straight in puke i did manage to get 270ish (indicated) out of the CBRRAAAWRRRR but i would not attempt that on the road unless alone with nobody anywhere to be seen .... but we are still talking about 105k/m "will be persecuted" here, and i can with 99.99% certainty tell you that i will never cause an accident at that speed...and even in that 0.01% chance if i do...its only going to hurt me not the truck or bus or whatever comes down the road.
And if i do hurt someone yeah lock me up and throw away the key but until then....

You miss the point - you may not be the cause of the crash. You might, however, be the result... however badly that may turn out to be..... through no fault of your own? But the faster you go, the bigger the mess, (or the bigger the cash donation to the government).

[HenryDorsetCase]

WRONG....

42 over is an instant fine ($400) and instant loss of license for 28 days, be you the mayor or miloking.

that story also said that he blew his demerit point cap in the same escapade.

People in Porsches are allowed to speed I thought. It was a Panamera, which is quite a nice, and a relatively expensive car. Given our roads are not unlike Autobahns, you know, with the connecting Point a to point b and all, it seems only fair if you have a car that is designed and built to go fast, that you should be able to go fast.

[Smifffy]

I found a useful primer here http://www.tarorigin.com/art/Omasory/Sensitivity/

It's possibly a little above the educational requirements to join traffic enforcement, but quite an enjoayble read, once you can get over the use of non SI units, and has colourful graphics.

An interesting line from the article:

First we must choose a range to "bracket". We choose to calculate the change in acceleration for increments 4 ft/sec around our time of 88 ft/second. 4 ft/sec is roughly equivalent to 2 M/h or 4km/h. This increment was chosen because it is a fair estimate for the uncertainty in reading the speedometer.

I didn't see a date on the article, so they may have since changed their basis for deciding what is fair for speedometer uncertainty.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You're shitting me...... You really think that Ambos, shouldn't rush to help heart attack victims, Fireys shouldn't rush to put out fires and Police shouldn't rush to whatever crime is happening? This is a pisstake, surely.....?????????

Cops do get tickets. I even got two in one morning. Go figure.

Well if 104kph is dangerous, and 100kph is safe (the gummint told me so, so it must be) then OF COURSE organs of the state should not be permitted to exceed the state sanctioned safe velocity.

Of course, the fact that they CAN and DO, might cause some to remark on the hypocrisy of same. Not me though.