Tickets for 4km/h over the speed limit this Queens Birthday weekend

[cowboyz]

one day after the weekend and the carnage starts......

[HenryDorsetCase]

one day after the weekend and the carnage starts......

I noticed that myself.

Of course Fatty broad will say "One day after we increased our tolerance again, the carnage starts, thus justifying more revenue collection and GPS based speed limiters in vehicles, because I rule you all, I AM THE KING OF THE WORLD MUAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA" The last bit might not get broadcast.

[miloking]

I noticed that myself.

Of course Fatty broad will say "One day after we increased our tolerance again, the carnage starts, thus justifying more revenue collection and GPS based speed limiters in vehicles, because I rule you all, I AM THE KING OF THE WORLD MUAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA" The last bit might not get broadcast.

It almost seems like Police and Media work together...somehow. But now that would be unethical so no that cannot be possible...

[caseye]

It almost seems like Police and Media work together...somehow. But now that would be unethical so no that cannot be possible...

Not only possible butt quite likely too!
Of course the Media and Police work together, often and most of the time for the right reasons.
Anything that reduces needless deaths on our roads is OK by me.
However, if the Police and the Media truely think that a lower tolerance before actioning for speeding ofences is what did the trick last weekend then it's only themsleves they are fooling.
WEATHER PLAYED THE BIGGEST PART in last weekends road toll being a record low, weather, the huge decrease in the number of people going anywhere at all and yes the extra effort the Police went to in diligently enforcing a reduced tolerance of speed.
Course they lied and placed camera vans at the end of double passing lanes etc because the barstards can't help themselves and no doubt their QUOTA's were doubled for the weekend.
If only we had pro active policing units out there.
You know standing on an intersection giving praise for good driving practicesa and being seen to stop the NUMPTIES doing dumb shit and crushing their cars there and then.
I'd in in for that in any amount.

[Fluffy Cat]

Not only possible butt quite likely too!
Of course the Media and Police work together, often and most of the time for the right reasons.
Anything that reduces needless deaths on our roads is OK by me.
However, if the Police and the Media truely think that a lower tolerance before actioning for speeding ofences is what did the trick last weekend then it's only themsleves they are fooling.
WEATHER PLAYED THE BIGGEST PART in last weekends road toll being a record low, weather, the huge decrease in the number of people going anywhere at all and yes the extra effort the Police went to in diligently enforcing a reduced tolerance of speed.
Course they lied and placed camera vans at the end of double passing lanes etc because the barstards can't help themselves and no doubt their QUOTA's were doubled for the weekend.
If only we had pro active policing units out there.
You know standing on an intersection giving praise for good driving practicesa and being seen to stop the NUMPTIES doing dumb shit and crushing their cars there and then.
I'd in in for that in any amount.

Sorry caseye but, I think you are been a bit myopic on that one. Very 1984, in my dream world the media ie, the news. Would be strictly impartial and objective in their views. Not an advertising medium for a sometimes misguided law enforcement arm of govenment.
There is a complete lack of this displayed by NZ media, they just go along with the plot. Never questioning the methods or results (at least not in any depth). It's death by a thousand cuts. Government and Media by the lowest common denominator.
And while I am at it......HDC, what a great idea GPS limiters. No more speeding fines ever.........I have a feeling it would not reduce the toll much.

[miloking]

Not only possible butt quite likely too!
Of course the Media and Police work together, often and most of the time for the right reasons.
Anything that reduces needless deaths on our roads is OK by me.
However, if the Police and the Media truely think that a lower tolerance before actioning for speeding ofences is what did the trick last weekend then it's only themsleves they are fooling.
WEATHER PLAYED THE BIGGEST PART in last weekends road toll being a record low, weather, the huge decrease in the number of people going anywhere at all and yes the extra effort the Police went to in diligently enforcing a reduced tolerance of speed.
Course they lied and placed camera vans at the end of double passing lanes etc because the barstards can't help themselves and no doubt their QUOTA's were doubled for the weekend.
If only we had pro active policing units out there.
You know standing on an intersection giving praise for good driving practicesa and being seen to stop the NUMPTIES doing dumb shit and crushing their cars there and then.
I'd in in for that in any amount.

Of course they are, but cant you see how wrong this is!!! No matter how noble the "reasons" are it sets dangerous precedent at best and for most confirms fact that we live in mind controling socialists state...

[red mermaid]

To back up and give your claim, and give it some credibility, of the weather playing the biggest part in the record low road toll, can you please post the research you did on the weather for last years Queens Birthday weekend.

Not only possible butt quite likely too!
Of course the Media and Police work together, often and most of the time for the right reasons.
Anything that reduces needless deaths on our roads is OK by me.
However, if the Police and the Media truely think that a lower tolerance before actioning for speeding ofences is what did the trick last weekend then it's only themsleves they are fooling.
WEATHER PLAYED THE BIGGEST PART in last weekends road toll being a record low, weather, the huge decrease in the number of people going anywhere at all and yes the extra effort the Police went to in diligently enforcing a reduced tolerance of speed.
Course they lied and placed camera vans at the end of double passing lanes etc because the barstards can't help themselves and no doubt their QUOTA's were doubled for the weekend.
If only we had pro active policing units out there.
You know standing on an intersection giving praise for good driving practicesa and being seen to stop the NUMPTIES doing dumb shit and crushing their cars there and then.
I'd in in for that in any amount.

[steve_t]

At least John Key was intelligent enough to suggest that only IF the police can prove that the speed tolerance reduction was the reason for the lower road toll, he'll support more resources for them. Obviously, he was also skeptical and considered other factors as well

[caseye]

No I haven't ,red and i aint gunna neither! So there.
My claim, as such, is simply that despite all that the Police and the media did, drivers concern for themselves and their passengers meant that either they did not go anywhere at all or they went there cautiously and with some care not to be caught doing more than 4 K's over the limit all the while taking into account the absolutely atrocious weather conditions experienced by most of the country.
Oh and of course despite their best attempts at hand on heart "we will not put cameras at the end of passing lanes, " THEY DID, as usual, they can't be trusted.
No research required for this one, I was out and about on Saturday and I saw this with myn own eyes, bastards. I don't mind being Policed, but I mind being fleeced so the damn Govt gets more dollars.
Afraid my experience of Policing in recent times has been marred by the belligerant, iHolier tha thou, I am the man, as opposed to the courteous, respectful officers I've dealt with in the past.
I give no offence nor disrespect to those officers I come into contact with and yet in the last two instances where I've had to address them it's been a fifty fifty call with one woman officer being a right pratt and getting put smartly back in her place by a much older and worldly wise citizen.The other ,again a woman officer, displayed the what I'd consder to be preferred manner and dealt with me and our discussion in a firm and frank way with no BS given or received. This officer was professional , cool calm and collected and proved to have a sense of humour and fair play.

[scumdog]

If only we had pro active policing units out there.
You know standing on an intersection giving praise for good driving practicesa and being seen to stop the NUMPTIES doing dumb shit and crushing their cars there and then.
I'd in in for that in any amount.

Hmm, imagine KB: "Yeah, I took off when the light went green and some arsehole cop pulled me over to tell me how good I was for not shooting through on the orange, who the hell does he think he is pulling me over when I hadn't done nothing wrong..."

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hmm, imagine KB: "Yeah, I took off when the light went green and some arsehole cop pulled me over to tell me how good I was for not shooting through on the orange, who the hell does he think he is pulling me over when I hadn't done nothing wrong..."

One of my favourite TV shows ever is "Cops", and there's ALWAYS that guy (who has usually been caught drunk as fuck driving, or with a pound of crystal meth, or a dead hooker in his car or whatever) saying "Why y'all locking me up for??? I didn't DO nothing!!!!"

awesome.

Oh, and things I learned from Cops:

"I didn't do nothin'"

"I ain't never seen that afore: Y'all planted it there"

"I've only had two drinks"

"I thought that was legal in this state" (where I have lived my whole life).

[flyingcrocodile46]

To back up and give your claim, and give it some credibility, of the weather playing the biggest part in the record low road toll, can you please post the research you did on the weather for last years Queens Birthday weekend.

Reminds me of the God debate. Is he real or is it fantasy.

Religious wackos (or power hungry manipulators... depending on your preference) wrote a fictional story about an imaginary god and his imaginary son. They then insisted that it was all for real and that we had to live by the made up Gods rules. Whenever anyone says that there is no proof that the story or gods rules are real and that it was all made up, the wackos respond with the challenge.... 'Prove it'.

Figures that those supporting fictional statistics would use the same lame fall back in their own defense. It simply serves to illustrate how piss weak the statistic ploy is.

Nice to see that Keys isn't so stupid as to give the bullshit claims any credibility.

[Katman]

Why should praise be expected for good driving practices?

Good driving practices should be expected.

[Scuba_Steve]

Reminds me of the God debate. Is he real or is it fantasy.

Religious wackos (or power hungry manipulators... depending on your preference) wrote a fictional story about an imaginary god and his imaginary son. They then insisted that it was all for real and that we had to live by the made up Gods rules. Whenever anyone says that there is no proof that the story or gods rules are real and that it was all made up, the wackos respond with the challenge.... 'Prove it'.

Figures that those supporting fictional statistics would use the same lame fall back in their own defense. It simply serves to illustrate how piss weak the statistic ploy is.

Nice to see that Keys isn't so stupid as to give the bullshit claims any credibility.

Its not just the God religions that use it all religions use that defense, God, Evolution, Global Warming, ACC statistics, etc etc etc

[Hinny]

WEATHER PLAYED THE BIGGEST PART in last weekends road toll being a record low

You are forgetting the Panel-beaters theme song.