Senior Police Officer let off drink/drive charge

[duckonin]

Reported as 1 1/2 times over the legal limit FFS....POTENTIAL KILLER......

[98tls]

Fwiw many years ago i got off a drink drive conviction after blowing the bag and being over,no laywer and simply tried my luck in court and was lucky enough to have a sympathetic judge who let me go.Back on topic the whole drink driving/court thing leaves me shaking my head in dis-belief every time i read a paper with court news in it,constantly i see 4-5-6 times convicted drivers still not going to jail,crazy.

[meteor]

Hang on, years and years of service, highly trained at our expense, one mistake... albeit a biggie but no one else was hurt. Some want all that thrown away because that's what a conviction would mean to him... he's automatically out of the job. What a waste. Yes it's wrong, against the law etc etc but the judge knows that... and he did put his hand up and plead guilty. He still got done for disqualification and fine didn't he, same as anyone else.... Maybe his employers will think differently but shit we all make mistakes... don't we?

[98tls]

Hang on, years and years of service, highly trained at our expense, one mistake... albeit a biggie but no one else was hurt. Some want all that thrown away because that's what a conviction would mean to him... he's automatically out of the job. What a waste. Yes it's wrong, against the law etc etc but the judge knows that... and he did put his hand up and plead guilty. He still got done for disqualification and fine didn't he, same as anyone else.... Maybe his employers will think differently but shit we all make mistakes... don't we?

Indeed we do fella.This is KB though,anytime a cop takes a shit and doesnt flush theres someone up in arms about it on here.

[duckonin]

Indeed we do fella.This is KB though,anytime a cop takes a shit and doesnt flush theres someone up in arms about it on here.

Aha, had he killed someone being 1 1/2 times over what would the reaction be then?

[Smifffy]

Yes we do, or at least I do. I've also had to accept the consequences of those mistakes more than once. Luckily that has never included court time. I agree that he shouldn't lose his job, I don't agree that a conviction should not have been recorded against his name.

The drink drive conviction, and things like historic weed posession convictions, in my view should not be a barrier to being in the force. People are able to rehabilitate. All these policies do is to seek to place the police on an even higher pedestal from which some inevitably fall.

How many people do you know with DIC convictions, who on the night they were stopped had caused no injury to anyone else?

Hang on, years and years of service, highly trained at our expense, one mistake... albeit a biggie but no one else was hurt. Some want all that thrown away because that's what a conviction would mean to him... he's automatically out of the job. What a waste. Yes it's wrong, against the law etc etc but the judge knows that... and he did put his hand up and plead guilty. He still got done for disqualification and fine didn't he, same as anyone else.... Maybe his employers will think differently but shit we all make mistakes... don't we?

[Hitcher]

Why are drunk drivers called "drink drivers" and why is drunk driving called "drink driving"?

[Smifffy]

Why are drunk drivers called "drink drivers" and why is drunk driving called "drink driving"?

I think it's because it is easier to prove that one has been drinking, than it is to prove that one is drunk. Drunk is subjective - as in "I've had a few drinks, but I'm not drunk"

Whether the subject is drunk or not is irrelevant, however it is relatively simple to prove that they have a threshold value of alcohol in their system.

[98tls]

Aha, had he killed someone being 1 1/2 times over what would the reaction be then?

He didnt,simple really.Dont get me wrong i dislike drink drivers as much as the next bloke but my point is the fact that this guy got off doesnt bother me at all considering every time i pick up a newspaper and read the court news i see repeat drink drivers get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.I really dont get it,with all the publicity/money etc spent on getting them off the road the system fails time and time again on court day,cops must just raise there arms skyward and shake there heads in disbelief.

[imdying]

Why are drunk drivers called "drink drivers" and why is drunk driving called "drink driving"?

Who says they're drunk? They've just been drinking, more than the limit allowed.

[p.dath]

Hang on, years and years of service, highly trained at our expense, one mistake... albeit a biggie but no one else was hurt. Some want all that thrown away because that's what a conviction would mean to him... he's automatically out of the job. What a waste. Yes it's wrong, against the law etc etc but the judge knows that... and he did put his hand up and plead guilty. He still got done for disqualification and fine didn't he, same as anyone else.... Maybe his employers will think differently but shit we all make mistakes... don't we?

The consequences, especially to a Seargant, would have been well known about in advance - yet they still decided to continue and drink/drive. They didn't drink/drive by accident.

This was a caluclated decision, where they hoped not to be caught, and were.

[Smifffy]

What are these consequences that you speak of?

He's a sergeant - there are no consequences, unless you mean a little bad press if he's unlucky enough to appear in court on a slow news day. Then a bit of bad press, some blagging on an online forum or two and then back to busting crime.

The consequences, especially to a Seargant, would have been well known about in advance - yet they still decided to continue and drink/drive. They didn't drink/drive by accident.

This was a caluclated decision, where they hoped not to be caught, and were.

[p.dath]

What are these consequences that you speak of?

A guilty verdict of a drink/charge charge would have resulted in more serious internal disciplinary actions.

[Smifffy]

A guilty verdict of a drink/charge charge would have resulted in more serious internal disciplinary actions.

When he made his calculated decision, he most likely factored in the chances of receiving a guilty verdict. Looks like his calculations were quite accurate. Good job!

[Smifffy]

A guilty verdict of a drink/charge charge would have resulted in more serious internal disciplinary actions.

When he made his calculated decision, he most likely factored in the chances of receiving a guilty verdict. Looks like his calculations were quite accurate. Good job!