Nelson blitz on bikers...

[miloking]

Yeah and? I guess if you haven't paid it then it'd be a bummer huh. It's obviously not the reason for the blitz as why would they go out the month of the fee hike, it ain't as if everybody's rego just expired and people have had to fork out the new levy!

Umm..did you read the article at all?

"90" day blitz starting now... so there about right time for regos to start expiring and people putting them on hold...as promised during protests! (also 90 days can easily become 190 days but they expect to have it sorted by then..just before summer)

And no i havent paid and wont...but iam from auckland,so iam safe right? wrong! ... it seems that you are all fucking so shortsighted, what happens in Nelson can happily happen everywhere else....

Just like saying "why protest ACC fees now" as its too late....forgeting that they will try to put them up again within two years to the amount Mr.Smith originaly wanted...but by then all the morons with attention spans of gold fish will forget that regos just went up last year.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I listened to the radio today and started ranting about fascism. So I turned off the radio. But its still fascism.

[Ragingrob]

Umm..did you read the article at all?

"90" day blitz starting now... so there about right time for regos to start expiring and people putting them on hold...as promised during protests! (also 90 days can easily become 190 days but they expect to have it sorted by then..just before summer)

And no i havent paid and wont...but iam from auckland,so iam safe right? wrong! ... it seems that you are all fucking so shortsighted, what happens in Nelson can happily happen everywhere else....

Just like saying "why protest ACC fees now" as its too late....forgeting that they will try to put them up again within two years to the amount Mr.Smith originaly wanted...but by then all the morons with attention spans of gold fish will forget that regos just went up last year.

I also read about the number of deaths in the area at the motorcyclist's own fault... Hmmm I'd probably prefer people having to pay fines than dying but hey that's me

[miloking]

I also read about the number of deaths in the area at the motorcyclist's own fault... Hmmm I'd probably prefer people having to pay fines than dying but hey that's me

I would prefer that too!!! but they need to target right things...and paying fines is not going to save lives.

BTW seems i didnt read the article properly myself..i realy was under impression its 90 days but the stuff article actualy says 100 day blitz...

[sinfull]

I would prefer that too!!! but they need to target right things...and paying fines is not going to save lives.

BTW seems i didnt read the article properly myself..i realy was under impression its 90 days but the stuff article actualy says 100 day blitz...

Raise your protest with one better !

[Ragingrob]

I would prefer that too!!! but they need to target right things...and paying fines is not going to save lives.

BTW seems i didnt read the article properly myself..i realy was under impression its 90 days but the stuff article actualy says 100 day blitz...

K what are the right things to target? If the riders are killing themselves, then how can it be targeted without pulling the riders over?

[miloking]

K what are the right things to target? If the riders are killing themselves, then how can it be targeted without pulling the riders over?

Ok why do you think riders die? (or have serious accidents)

Most accidents that are not caused by other vehicles and are "fault" of the rider are caused by enviromental factors like road condition,visibility etc and some are purely due to lack of skill or rider error...

Now tell me how is pulling only bikers over going to stop all the reasons above?

Is the officer also going to magicaly teach all the pulled over bikers all the needed skills in those 10 minutes while giving them ticket for no rego???

So things to target should be....

improving road condtions or at least signpost hazardous areas, (not like coro loop where there are patches of fresh gravel all over with no "road works" signs to be seen) and then of course biker education...for those ones starting up fresh or coming back to motorcycling after many years. (by this i mean what many organisations are doing already quite effectively)

And rest is up to people themselves...some things are just fate also!

[Berries]

I'm one of the so called "mid life crisis" blokes. How many years back on the road am I supposed to do before I'm not labelled? Is there a number that some wanker sitting behind a desk has made up for this too?

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[Ragingrob]

Ok why do you think riders die? (or have serious accidents)

Most accidents that are not caused by other vehicles and are "fault" of the rider are caused by enviromental factors like road condition,visibility etc and some are purely due to lack of skill or rider error...

Now tell me how is pulling only bikers over going to stop all the reasons above?

Is the officer also going to magicaly teach all the pulled over bikers all the needed skills in those 10 minutes while giving them ticket for no rego???

So things to target should be....

improving road condtions or at least signpost hazardous areas, (not like coro loop where there are patches of fresh gravel all over with no "road works" signs to be seen) and then of course biker education...for those ones stating up fresh or coming back to motorcycling after many years. (by this i mean what many organisations are doing already quite effectively)

And rest is up to people themselves...some things are just fate also!

Well if the riders were riding to those conditions such as low visibility then they wouldn't crash the majority of the time. So even if the road is shit the rider would be to blame unless it's a situation such as coming around a blind corner onto a big patch of diesel.

I know that roads aren't the best and can lead to crashes, and that NZ doesn't put enough funding into decent roads etc etc... But a 100 day "blitz" of coppers just checking peoples licenses etc ain't the end of the world. That's just like saying all drink driving stops are a scam.

[sinfull]

Well if the riders were riding to those conditions such as low visibility then they wouldn't crash the majority of the time. So even if the road is shit the rider would be to blame unless it's a situation such as coming around a blind corner onto a big patch of diesel.

I know that roads aren't the best and can lead to crashes, and that NZ doesn't put enough funding into decent roads etc etc... But a 100 day "blitz" of coppers just checking peoples licenses etc ain't the end of the world. That's just like saying all drink driving stops are a scam.

Mate, The cops are at a loss as to how to stop the carnage ! Only thing they aint tried is re-educating riders, so all they have is presence ! Try an slow em down with phsychological crap ! Cops at a loss, we know it's education, why don't the gubberment ?

[ukusa]

Yeah and? I guess if you haven't paid it then it'd be a bummer huh. It's obviously not the reason for the blitz as why would they go out the month of the fee hike, it ain't as if everybody's rego just expired and people have had to fork out the new levy!

so if it's not the reason, explain to us dumbasses how a roadside wof & rego check will somehow save lives. Here's a question for you, how many of the recent motorcycle deaths in the Marlborough area involved bikes with no wof/reg?

I have a wof & a rego, and it wouldn't worry me getting pulled over & checked either, but you're on another planet if you think the checks will save lives.

[Ragingrob]

Mate, The cops are at a loss as to how to stop the carnage ! Only thing they aint tried is re-educating riders, so all they have is presence ! Try an slow em down with phsychological crap ! Cops at a loss, we know it's education, why don't the gubberment ?

Yeah so the same people complaining about the blitzing of cops causing fines etc and funding the govt will be complaining about having to pay for education and licensing they don't think they need either. Why do I know the dangers of riding etc and manage to navigate my way thus far without killing myself, when so many people don't? Education must be out there somewhere but at the moment it's a choice as to whether someone takes part in it or not. I hear that people don't like their choices being taken away!

[sinfull]

Yeah so the same people complaining about the blitzing of cops causing fines etc and funding the govt will be complaining about having to pay for education and licensing they don't think they need either. Why do I know the dangers of riding etc and manage to navigate my way thus far without killing myself, when so many people don't? Education must be out there somewhere but at the moment it's a choice as to whether someone takes part in it or not. I hear that people don't like their choices being taken away!

No ! And your right i don't want my choices taken away ! But put me on a course that would challenge me and i'd pay you to do it !!!!!!!!!!
Hello, wanna start something here or should we leave it to the radicals ?

[miloking]

Well if the riders were riding to those conditions such as low visibility then they wouldn't crash the majority of the time. So even if the road is shit the rider would be to blame unless it's a situation such as coming around a blind corner onto a big patch of diesel.

I know that roads aren't the best and can lead to crashes, and that NZ doesn't put enough funding into decent roads etc etc... But a 100 day "blitz" of coppers just checking peoples licenses etc ain't the end of the world. That's just like saying all drink driving stops are a scam.

I agree with you regarding the essential rider skills consist of knowing the limits of not just yourself but also the bike and the road etc

..and that "blitz" isnt end of the world in the scale of things.

...but its still quite retarded thing to do expecting it will lower biker accidents and its still a discrimination against minority.

[Ragingrob]

so if it's not the reason, explain to us dumbasses how a roadside wof & rego check will somehow save lives. Here's a question for you, how many of the recent motorcycle deaths in the Marlborough area involved bikes with no wof/reg?

I have a wof & a rego, and it wouldn't worry me getting pulled over & checked either, but you're on another planet if you think the checks will save lives.

I'm not saying that they'll save lives, I'm saying they won't ruin them! But a higher police presence in general should play a positive part in road safety I'd think, yes.

"This would enable officers to ascertain the rider's licence status, check their vehicle for road safety compliance, and pass on the message to take care on the roads."

As I said, if they're doing this with the right attitude then good on them.