Wayne Gardner demands immediate TT ban

[avgas]

Fortunately, I neither know nor care what your definition of a motorcyclist is.

However, I have been involved in the running of a street race in the past (I was on the organising committee of the last Hamilton Street race a loooong time ago), and I have every respect for anyone who runs these events today in the face of current legislation.

I was the Race Secretary at that last event, and I can tell you there is no worse feeling than having a Police Sergeant step into your office and say "..one of your riders has just died, I'm shutting this race down.." Fortunately, as he was saying this, our boy was being revived (live on National TV), by our Club Doctor (who happened to be an ITU Intern) and both he and the race survived with no ill effects.

It is obvious to me that street races are going to become a more of problem to organise in the future and the uncontrolled example of the IOM plastered on the media just doesn't help.

So if they ban IOM......how long until your races are killed too?
Love it or hate it - motorbike racing has been and will always have death involved.
If you can not deal with this fact - I hope the balance of the rest of the committee can.
Its not like a model train convention as you of all people should know.

[avgas]

Maybe he's just angry cause no one is wearing his stuff at IOM.....?

I would do it, but IOM of man was going to be when I retired - and have both time and money to actually race.
However if some have their way in this thread - the only jackets will will be allowed to wear, are airbag ones that make a crash look like marshmallow pudding.

[sosman]

Nah just the peeps that are on KB these days have changed

Gardiner can fuck off and his lackies
I would love to race there and I love watchin. Certainly wouldn't race for sponsors or cash anywhere!!.

I couldn't enjoy something if I were only doing it for cash or sponsors?

Yep what he said.....If Gadiner want to save lives then he he should help the poor & suffering

[Biggles08]

How to be a Hypocrit, as above.

It is FACT, that road riders are killed on the roads in accidents, the above poster sells leather gear to road riders, so he can make money from the sale? and then has the arrogance to post shite like in this thread, wow, YES I am confused now

So it is OK for a person to set up a buisness selling product to make money from an industry that DOES have a Known Risk facture! ( And please do not say you are trying to keep people safe, other wise you would be selling it all at your cost if that was the truth) But if any induviduall wants to make there own decisions about there future they cannot, because people like above say so???

You still going on the organised road rides that kill people mate

You still riding on the road where people die mate

I know I was out of this thread but felt I had to say something here.

Shaun, I think this post was a bit off bro...whether you agree with Quasi or not. I'm not sure if there maybe history with you two, but attacking Quasi's motives or moral standings on motorcycle safety, based merely on his post's in this thread is wrong. I understand your passion for the IOM and that's fine, but other people are allowed to have a different opinion on any subject, even the IOM. I haven't seen any other people get personal in their post's until you came into this thread and I think it was a bit off. I was actually enjoying this debate and felt it was well represented from all sides until now.

Personally I am sponsored by Quasi and that was my choice to approach him for his gear, not the other way around. I have done my research on what gear I will and will not wear and Qmoto gear was MY FIRST CHOICE when it came to protecting my hide. Qmoto product regardless of whether you like Quasi or not, is among the best leathers available in NZ. The fact that he is involved in selling safety gear 'for a profit' has nothing to do with whether he 'cares' for peoples (motorcyclist's) well being or not!? In fact, because he is involved in selling safety gear re-enforces my belief that he does care about motorcyclist safety and has every right to have an opinion on this subject.

As for my thoughts on the subject, I hate seeing people I know and like die (RIP Paul). While I respect everyone's views on the IOM, I believe it was an epic event in context of when it was originally instigated, but with today's machinery and speeds involved, it is unfortunately a death trap waiting for its next victim. I guess this makes me a softcock.

[Ivan]

the problem is my intial reads of that thread I thought it was shit people saying ban it ban it and then it got worse and I can see why Shaun has come outr with what he has said when people make the Wanker comments like Donation time etc that is fucken off big time and I can completly understand why it would Fuck someone off especially someone who has raced there and knows alot of the other people who have lost there lives racing there and then arrogent pricks who sit behind computer names say shit like that and never go there themselves

[jellywrestler]

While I respect everyone's views on the IOM, I believe it was an epic event in context of when it was originally instigated, but with today's machinery and speeds involved, it is unfortunately a death trap waiting for its next victim. I guess this makes me a softcock.

fact is the first 100mph lap was in 57 0r 58 and the first 100mph lap on a production bike was in 1969, while 130 plus mph seems fast machine handling, safety barriers and bike reliability have all moved on to allow the current speeds

[FROSTY:Me]

In my opinion. If you are ever even just dreaming of attending the IOMTT as a spectator "one day". Maybee dream of giving it a go or maybee have an actual plan of attack to do it then best to be defending it with everything you've got.
If you do some background research into the last few years of the race you'll see why.

Maybee I have a certain kind of insanity but I fall somewhere between option 2 and 3.I know I need to get out and do a truck load of laps before even thinking of giving it a go but I do want to race IOM.

[_Shrek_]

Ok they ban the TT then they ban road racing etc.... because people die, so what do the boy's & some girls do, they go out to a location that can give them what the TT & other races gave them, have side bets etc... people die but they there again the next week, why coz theres something in side you that says YES thats me

way i see it leave the stuff thats in place, lots safer

as for me I would love to do the TT as well, but I don't have the $$$ or that skill level

so I'll carry on doing what I do to get that bit xtra when needed

[CHOPPA]

In my opinion. If you are ever even just dreaming of attending the IOMTT as a spectator

Even though i am surprised it is still running, man i would love to go watch! I dont think my old man would let me even watch he would be worried I talk some sucker into lending me a bike.....

[Toaster]

What next? Riding covered in bubble wrap?

[onearmedbandit]

What next? Riding covered in bubble wrap?

Already done bro...

[Big Dave]

Now show him the Gimp suit.

[Bren_chch]

Ban me if you must Mods?

K14, you better copy this reply to your post if you want to have me charged , as I am going to punch your mouth in with so much passion, and the moral support of over 200 men and there families, you out spoken piece of shit

You gana use a ladder?

[racer40]

You gana use a ladder?

For those of you that would like to do the IOM TT, do it & you will get hooked like Shaun, myself & most others that have done it. The organisers do thier best in making it as safe as possible, with airbags, new road surfacing, easing of corners, accepting entries from not just anybody. I was in the practise session after Roberts crash, & was also racing there when Stu was killed & although it was hard to carry on, we know the risk & the risk is worth it to ride at the worlds most challanging track

[gammaguy]

i think there are two categories of banning opinions in this world,at the risk of oversimplifying:

1)the opinions that want to ban things because they think the people doing them are putting themselves in danger,and directly or indirectly affecting people who have nothing to do with the activity,thus imposing their choices on others

2)the opinions that want to ban activities that are dangerous only to those directly involved.

I firmly believe the Isle of Man is in the second category,as almost invariably the only casualties are of those who CHOOSE to be there,either competing directly,spectating or drinking beer and riding round the island on mad sunday.Whatever their reasons,they are exercising their democratic right of free choice,and if they want to ride a motorcycle dam fast on a road i would not even ride my bike on at much over 100k,GOOD LUCK TO THEM.I have lost mates to the island,and although i will always be sad about their untimely loss,I will always comfort myself with the knowledge that they exercised their choice and died doing something they loved.

Beats wasting away in a old peoples home if you ask me

Wayne Gardner should know better