M/C industry sales figures for first half of 2010.

[Katman]

I bet NZ figures will continue to decline too. The ACC levies will put alot of buyers off. Scooter sales will plummet as well because they're no longer cheap to rego.

That's what the powers that be are counting on.

Less motorcyclists = easier to push through any legislation required to eventually be rid of motorcycles.

[Big Dave]

The second line of the OP says "The Australia/ New Zealand motorcycle market..."

Which removes most of the relevance to here. NZ market is smaller than 3 of the six states and have different distributors, pricing, marketing and market conditions.

[ukusa]

That's what the powers that be are counting on.

Less motorcyclists = easier to push through any legislation required to eventually be rid of motorcycles.

and with less bikes on the road = less accidents = lower lower ACC levy. Hey, we're all happy

apart from maybe the dealers.

[Quasievil]

Less motorcyclists = easier to push through any legislation required to eventually be rid of motorcycles.

I dont know about that, I saw thousands and thousands of bikers in wellington protesting about the ACC thing, its clearly has nothing to do with numbers, it HAS got alot to do with the apathetic lazy arse attitudes NZrs seem to adopt when it comes to protesting.
Fuck a puff of wind in the right direction would blow away any protesting campaign in this country.

But lets not drag the thread into a ACC thin ok, back on topic

[Katman]

I dont know about that, I saw thousands and thousands of bikers in wellington protesting about the ACC thing, its clearly has nothing to do with numbers, it HAS got alot to do with the apathetic lazy arse attitudes NZrs seem to adopt when it comes to protesting.
Fuck a puff of wind in the right direction would blow away any protesting campaign in this country.

But lets not drag the thread into a ACC thing ok, back on topic

And next time we try a show of strength the numbers will be less.

And the next time they'll be less again.

As for not dragging this thread into an ACC thing - any person involved in the motorcycle industry should be seriously combining the basis of this thread with the ACC issue and thinking very carefully about the long term implications.

Hence my persistence in trying to make everyone understand the importance of reducing our accident figures.

But hey, let's not drag the thread into a Katman thing, ok?

[Quasievil]

any person involved in the motorcycle industry should be seriously combining the basis of this thread with the ACC issue and thinking very carefully about the long term implications.

What? the motorcycle industry is fucked ??

oh yeah I knew that already.

[ukusa]

I dont know about that, I saw thousands and thousands of bikers in wellington protesting about the ACC thing, its clearly has nothing to do with numbers, it HAS got alot to do with the apathetic lazy arse attitudes NZrs seem to adopt when it comes to protesting.
Fuck a puff of wind in the right direction would blow away any protesting campaign in this country.

But lets not drag the thread into a ACC thin ok, back on topic

my tongue was firmly in cheek with my statement, although the huge increase in sales during the last 10 or 12 years was one of the "reasons" ACC attributed the increase in accidents to.

The economy aside, I do believe the recent publicity around the huge rises in rego will affect sales, in a similar way publicised tobacco increases create a whole new wave of people trying to quit.

[duckonin]

As for not dragging this thread into an ACC thing - any person involved in the motorcycle industry should be seriously combining the basis of this thread with the ACC issue and thinking very carefully about the long term implications.

Less bikes on the road.

Long term implications = more cars on the road, which the roads and citys cannot handle now,along with the smog they create..


"More persons hurt in accidents" when a people carrier crashes.

Acc gets to pay out more not less as we have two broken legs instead of one on the motorcycle cost to fix =twice as much!!

More fuel being burnt which means more money being spent which creates more GST ect ect.

Yes this Govt is really onto it...

[Katman]

Yes this Govt is really onto it...

Hey, I never said they were smart.

[duckonin]

Hey, I never said they were smart.

True u never have ....

[HenryDorsetCase]

its all about aussie isnt it?

the clue is the reference to LAMS: yup, definitely Straya.

[Headbanger]

LOL...ex-motorcycle industry worker looking for a job NOW in Auckland area.

Serious...

I assume there is more to the story?

[DMNTD:Me]

I assume there is more to the story?

Yep...and sadly I don't think I'd go back to the industry at this stage. Things are pretty fickle at the moment and I have too many kids and bikes that need feeding.

[doc]

Yep...and sadly I don't think I'd go back to the industry at this stage. Things are pretty fickle at the moment and I have too many kids and bikes that need feeding.

So it's true about Mt Eden motorcycles then ? Heard a rumour last night.

[tri boy]

Love or hate it, the future of the m/cycle industry lays with manufacturers like Kymco, Hyosung, and other lower cost producers.
Their product will keep improving, while higher cost companys like Honda/Ducati etc will lose market share.
They, (the big 4) have been failing in their ability to contain costs and read the market properly for a while now.
The heady days of huge sales made from marketing the latest/greastist bits of technology in this industry are fading for a reasonable amount of time.
Back to basics for about 5-10yrs would see them gain market share, but I doubt they will take this attitude.
The cheapies will continue to sell while the exotica will fade. MHO