Coming to a track near you, seat belts and roll bars

[honda_power]

i disagree with the irs causing more roll overs, i ride both types often and there is very little difference, however quads are getting faster, 10 years ago the biggest quad made was a 500 and most people still ran 300's, now quads are up to 800cc and most people are on 400cc or bigger,

totally agree with roll bars being worse, having ridden quads with them i hate them, you need to be able to get away from a quad when it goes, and a roll bar prevents that,

as for the suggestion of the harder side walls, it is a good plan, but it takes away the traction that the people need form them,

yeap, nothing could beat a honda big red 300.

when i was on a farm we had a yamaha 350 and a 400 with independent rear... perhaps it was just that model but it liked to roll. Or maybe the suspension gives you a false sense of security as its hugging the ground, and when it does go its too late to do anything but jump out of the way. Never had any close calls on the 350.

Great quads though, i had the 400 bouncing down a hill and all i bent was the rear carrier

[schrodingers cat]

as for the suggestion of the harder side walls, it is a good plan, but it takes away the traction that the people need form them,

Oh I know why they're fitted...
And I know that lowering the pressure helps enormously at the expense of stability and safety.

So now we're between a rock and a hard place.
ACC want to rid the world of anything dangerous
The Polly's won't ban quads but want to back ACC.

What happens now is that highly opinionated and ill informed media will conduct 'investigations' until the NEXT BIG THING catches their interest. The fuss will die down until the next time there is a paucity of news and the story will get dusted off. Repeat ad nauseum

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...AL-menace.html
http://www.anorak.co.uk/scare-stories/

[CRF119]

who cares learning the hard way is the best way, or am i to old school for this politicly correct world.

[Expert]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover

Vehicles usually roll over due to one of several mechanisms. These are excessive cornering, tripping, collision with another vehicle or object, or traversing a critical slope.

Excessive cornering rollovers occur when cornering forces destabilize the vehicle. As a vehicle rounds a corner, three forces act on it: tire forces, inertial effects, and gravity. The cornering forces from the tire push the vehicle towards the center of the curve. This force acts at ground level. The force of inertia acts horizontally through the vehicle's center of mass in the direction opposite to the one it is turning. These two forces make the vehicle roll towards the outside of the curve. The force of the vehicle's weight acts downward through the center of mass in the opposite direction. When the tire and inertial forces are enough to overcome the force of gravity, the vehicle starts to turn over. Most passenger vehicles will slide or spin before this happens, but this is a common type of rollover for taller vehicles, including light trucks (SUVs, vans and pickup trucks), busses and heavy trucks.

Tripping rollovers occur when a vehicle is sliding sideways, and the tires strike a curb, dig into soft ground, suddenly regain traction, or a similar event occurs that results in a sudden lateral force. The physics are similar to cornering rollovers.

A collision with another vehicle or object can cause a rollover. These occur when the collision causes the vehicle to become unstable, such as when a narrow object causes one side of the vehicle to accelerate upwards, but not the other, causing the vehicle to rotate along its long axis. A side impact can accelerate a vehicle sideways. The tires resist the change, and the coupled forces rotate the vehicle.

A rollover can also occur as a vehicle crosses a ditch or slope rather than a flat road surface. Slopes that are steeper than one unit vertically for every three units horizontally are termed 'critical slopes' and often contribute to rollovers.

Do you just copy this stuff straight off wiki? Everyone knows what makes stuff fall over, i fall over when i drink too much.
We're not stupid.

[schrodingers cat]

Do you just copy this stuff straight off wiki? Everyone knows what makes stuff fall over, i fall over when i drink too much.
We're not stupid.

Actually a lot of people couldn't explain why something falls over. I agree you're not stupid just narrow

[little.whittle]

According to the Department of Labour most of the accidents are riders under 16 and most deaths were riders w/o helmets
We wear them on a mountain bike or a dirtbike but cant get into the habit on a farmquad!
I'm as guilty as the rest