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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    Hey Hanne

    Thank you for your response. Given I have not received anything via snail mail from BRONZ or electronically I will not be renewing my membership.

    Regards
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    Edit: expect an invoice from me for return of my membership fees
    Sorry you feel this way MD
    especially after all the work you did managing BIKEOI funds

    I was given a headsup from a member yesterday that they too were not recieveing e-mails from BRONZ Wellington, so took measures to have the mailing list edited appropriately.
    Human factor mate, people make mistakes, sorry your not going to remain a member.

    I am surprised you didnt advise the Auckland branch that you were not recieving the mailouts sooner. But moot point now I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    Nope. Not at all. I didnt get what I paid for.
    I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that you're that retarded as to think you're owed money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    I am surprised you didnt advise the Auckland branch that you were not recieving the mailouts sooner.
    And you think I havent advised them of this previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that you're that retarded as to think you're owed money back.
    Nah this retard just knows that money could be better spent elsewhere.....love you to KM

    When you give money to an organisation based on their promise to do "something" then it doesnt happen. Then they head off on a tangent you werent expecting or werent notified of ...then yeah I am kind of feeling a a bit ripped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post

    Nah this retard just knows that money could be better spent elsewhere.....love you to KM

    When you give money to an organisation based on their promise to do "something" then it doesnt happen. Then they head off on a tangent you werent expecting or werent notified of ...then yeah I am kind of feeling a a bit ripped off.
    MD I get that your feeling pissed off about the lack of comms you recieved, and after the PM I get your point and sympathize

    However BRONZ achived a shitload this last 9 months dude
    Be the levy increase was never going to be the whole 500 dollar increase, the BIKEOI (BRONZ organised it remember) reduced it to 140$

    Thats like 7x your membership fee, it could have been 25x your membership fee...sorry your feeling miffed but weve worked bloody hard these last 9 months, at GREAT sacrifice for some of us.
    If what you told me by PM is true, I will take the issue up and get some nswers, but to state you got NOTHING for your membership fee is utter rubbish

    BRONZ achieved MORE this year than anyone else has for Bikers in NZ.... its a shame your too upset over a missing e-mail to see that
    Just ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneY View Post
    .... its a shame your too upset over a missing e-mail to see that
    Firstly I am not a Dude. Secondly its not just missing one email. I have given you my reasons in a PM. Best left there I think.

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    Bumping this up


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    *Bump* Tis this Wednesday


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    You rock, Stoney.

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    Bump for tonights AGM


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggles View Post
    Bump for tonights AGM
    So what happened,did anyone turn up?

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    Yea - not enough for the quorum required by the articles of incorporation, but interim officers were elected and said requirements will be satisfied at the next meeting.

    Positive and pleasant meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fossil View Post
    So what happened,did anyone turn up?
    Yep I did and was either the only new face there or one of two?? Big Daves earlier estimate of 15 was over the top as there where about 13 or 14 there, total, including Les! Just shows how many actually give a shit! And before you bleaters get stuck in saying there's no faith in them, which is why you didn't go, it would have only taken 10 of you to get off your arses and turn up to change all the votes to your agenda, come up with new motions, vote whoever you wanted on the committee and even become chairman??

    Quite frankly IMHO the job you guys are expecting this very small group to do on behalf of you guys and motorcycling is simply to much to ask in time by itself, let alone they only have funds from 240 members to play with. If you take some of the committee out that have enough to do just being secretary, treasurer, web site development or running the training school program etc, there's stuff all people left for the volume of work that's needed to really make the organisation grow and even implement the pretty good ideas that where presented by the committee themselves. They have jobs and lives to!

    There where some good ideas but as I didn't put my hand up to go on the committee ( the only one in the room that didn't) and because of a whole lot of being newly single adjustments goin on in my world at the moment, its not my place to comment on what was discussed.

    So all in all, you guys can bleat on Kiwibiker as much as you want but until you start your own chapters, go to the meetings, actually get involved and put your ideas and time in, stuff all is going to change as fast as you want it to. Actually it would take bugger all effort if there where a few of you to make more things happen. And from what I could see of the first meeting I've ever been to, they would welcome the input and involvement. Bronze have enough to do trying formulate submissions to fend off stupid bureaucratic laws like any windscreen over x area needs a windsrceen wiper?? Which meant your new GSXR would have to have a bloody windscreen wiper.

    So I learned a few things:
    1/- They actually do a lot more behind the scenes than I ever thought.
    2/- There's very few bikers that actually give a shit ( about 12 in the whole of Auckland!) Most would rather bend over and take it up the arse than come out on a cold rainy Wednesday night.
    3/- The people at that meeting would dearly like to be a proactive orgainisation, not a reactive one. But think about it, the liaison required just to interface and knit together the factions of motorcycling alone ie, Ulysses, HOG etc etc is a full time job on its own. Let alone Marketing, rallies, safety training, Safety campaigns, membership drives, promoting membership at race meetings, bike shows, shops and other events. Then dealing with ACC and/or govt and all the other stuff being called for in previous posts.

    Look I know I've written a book above and probably left myself wide open to be quoted out of context and some of you aren't going to like what I have said!
    But fuck it! I'm not on the committee and don't have to defend or justify my 2c above!
    Rightly or wrongly I'm just telling it like I saw it and I'm not very good at this stuff!!!
    IMHO Bikers only have themselves to blame (including me) for not being more in control of our own world.

    Edit: I've just reread what I posted and it comes across a bit angry! Just let me say I'm not, the written word is sometimes harsh without the body language. And the meeting was as Dave said positive and pleasant!But I get the impression some are simply expecting to much from people giving a lot already.
    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

    'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '

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    What was the point of attempting to hold elections when 230 of the 240 members wouldn't have a clue who was standing for what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    What was the point of holding elections when 230 of the 240 members wouldn't have a clue who was standing for what?
    As I said above you only needed to turn up with 10 people, Just 10, to have things exactly as you wanted? But did you?? NO! more one liners on Kiwibiker!

    This was a perfect opportunity for you (or anyone) to put forward THEIR name, bring their supporters to vote and get put in place what they are preaching needs to be done. But I only saw 1 person standing for each position!! I didn't see any opposition to the candidates or any input whatsoever for any sort of change. Not even one letter or Nomination form. If the web site, nomination form and information stream was so bad as you say surly this was the golden opportunity for change. Where where you?

    If you really cared Katman you'd start your own Taupo Bronze and actually put into action what you always preach! Safety, education and the fact bikers are there own worst enemies. Change is better made from the inside rather than firing off unfair personal salvos on Kiwibiker.
    I haven't ever met him but from the imppression I get here StoneY would be a recent new person since the ACC protests and good example of the above, but IMHO your not, your message is valid but your comments are destructive and divisive!!
    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

    'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '

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