View Poll Results: Which is the major influencing factor in motorcycle accidents?

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  • Rider

    70 68.63%
  • Car driver

    22 21.57%
  • Motorcycle

    3 2.94%
  • Road

    7 6.86%
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Thread: Crash Poll - Take 2

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    'Which is the major influencing factor in motorcycle accidents'?

    To much reading and not enough riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rachprice View Post
    personal responsibility for everyone
    Now thats a novel idea!

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    Love that,

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Not really.

    Take away the rider, the car driver and the motorcycle and the road ain't going to do much at all.

    Take away the rider, the car driver and the road and the motorcycle's just going to sit there.
    This is good, shows a distinction of what people are thinking. Good post.
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    I ticked rider, but if I had the option I would have ticked "his mother". After all, if the rider wasn't born then he wouldn't have been able to crash so it's her fault.
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    I had a strange dream myself. You know that game some folk play on the streets where they toss coins at the wall and what not? In my dream they were tossing my semi hardened stool at the wall. I shit you not.

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    I couldn't see an option for 'Katman' so I just picked 'Rider' instead.

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    What is this poll supposed to achieve??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    What is this poll supposed to achieve??
    World peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    World peace.

    And the winner of Miss KB is........Katman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    And the winner of Miss KB is........Katman
    I forgot to add that I want to remove all the flies from the starving babies eyes.

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    It missed the key factor

    gravity. If there was no such thing as gravity bikes would just float into the sky and drift into eternity without hurting anyone.

    Katman, you're a twat. I know you think that motorcyclist behaviour is the sole cause of crashes, but even the most responsible and highly skilled rider faces risk every time they get on their bike - if I'm sitting on my sensible BMW 650 wearing my safe flouro vest and safe white helmet, and the twat coming up behind me is too busy texting to see me and hits me, is it still my fault?

    Or if I ride carefully round a corner at the recommended speed (still wearing my high vis kit, but this time on an even more sensible bike like a CB250), and I hit a patch of unmarked ice grit, an oil spill or a tourist on the wrong side of the road and wipe out, is that my fault too?

    What you forget is that we have to take the role of other road users and of the road environment into account because they play a major part in most crashes. If we ignore them we're completely wasting our time, and if we listen to you the only crashes that will be prevented will be the small amount that happen to responsible riders that are entirely their fault, because the incompetent and irresponsible riders will pay no attention to any safety message; and it is my belief that they are the people who have most biker at fault crashes.

    What you need to learn (and you won't) is that motorcycle safety is heavily influenced by rider skill and behaviour, other road users, road surface, design and furniture and by legislation. The majorityh of crashes may have a primary cause, but all of these factors influence the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post

    What you need to learn (and you won't) is that motorcycle safety is heavily influenced by rider skill and behaviour, other road users, road surface, design and furniture and by legislation. The majorityh of crashes may have a primary cause, but all of these factors influence the outcome.
    So therefore, the greatest gain we can make towards improving our lot in motorcycling is addressing the factors that we have greatest control over - i.e. ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So therefore, the greatest gain we can make towards improving our lot in motorcycling is addressing the factors that we have greatest control over - ourselves.
    Agreed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So therefore, the greatest gain we can make towards improving our lot in motorcycling is addressing the factors that we have greatest control over - ourselves.
    YES!......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So therefore, the greatest gain we can make towards improving our lot in motorcycling is addressing the factors that we have greatest control over - i.e. ourselves.
    But we cannot ignore the other factors. If we don't recognise that a significant percentage of crashes are caused by other road users and by the road environment we're sticking our heads in the sand. If I don't set out every day expecting other road users to do stupid and dangerous shit, and if I don't expect gravel in the middle of the corner; I'm dead.
    Don't blame me, I voted Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrub View Post
    But we cannot ignore the other factors. If we don't recognise that a significant percentage of crashes are caused by other road users and by the road environment we're sticking our heads in the sand. If I don't set out every day expecting other road users to do stupid and dangerous shit, and if I don't expect gravel in the middle of the corner; I'm dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So therefore, the greatest gain we can make towards improving our lot in motorcycling is addressing the factors that we have greatest control over - i.e. ourselves.
    Both are right in my eyes, it's up to the rider to be as vigilant and educated with motorcycle riding as he or she can be, that alone would surely cut the death rate on bikes etc?

    True other factors after we have done all we can are out of our control, we can only do so much, but that little we do do does help alot

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