The good oil

[bart]

Cleaning foam air cleaners with petrol cut down their service life especailly if your running a dual compound filter, use turps 10 bucks for 4 litres. Proper air cleaner oil isnt that dear, car oil will not filter fine particales properly. Dirty air kills engines

Mine isn't a foam filter.

I need an excuse to throw in a 725 kit anyway.

[Woodman]

My 2 rupees....
I do the oil and filter every 3-4000 k's these days, using castrol 4T, it's cheap and seems to be working.I will not put diesel oil in the bike, I tried that before (thinking "any old shit'll do")and think it is one of the reasons why it had a meltdown
I have had trouble finding a 10-40 SF or SG oil for the Big which is what's recomended so if anybody knows where to get some lemme know
Air filter I change every 10,000 and clean whenever the tank is off. It's a really piss poor design so I don't thinkk cleaning has much effect, besides making me feel better It is something I think will be ahem modified at some stage.

We should make this oil thread a sticky aye

I found some oil for ya ages ago, the spec sheet is pinned up in my orifice. Its a marine 4 stoke oil sg 10w50 semi synthetic, also suitable for motorcycles with clutches etc.

Pop over and I will show ya.

[wysper]

This has been a good thread for me.

Cheers guys.

[MXNUT]

Don't buy into the hype.

Had a bit to do with oil and oil/engine failures recently.
Also had lots of oil reps tell me that oils that are rated the same ( friction modifier package )with the same viscosity are as good as each other.

Oil sampling and analysis of the used oils by proper testing laboratories has proven that is not the case.

I dont Buy into the Hype, but i do go for "fit for purpose".

The advantage of living in a democratic world is each to their own though.

[pete376403]

As has been previously said, diesel oils have a very high sulpher and detergent content and are made for cleaning out dirty diesel engines...

...Despite what people may think the manufacturers do know best.

Really? High sulphur content compared to what? This article in Nov 2006 said Shell Rotella was part of the ultra low sulphur project (fuel and oil)
http://www.trucknews.com/issues/stor...int%20Archives

And I certainly agree with your last statement

[That looks like fun]

Really? High sulphur content compared to what? This article in Nov 2006 said Shell Rotella was part of the ultra low sulphur project (fuel and oil)
http://www.trucknews.com/issues/stor...int%20Archives

And I certainly agree with your last statement

Good article , good to see fuel companies working to reduce emissions as well as just expecting engine manufacturers to do it all. A reduction in Sulfur in the fuel will certainly change the characteristic's of combustion byproducts . That will be the reason they recommend an oil meeting a required certification level be used. No mention of Sulfur in the oil though so not sure why this fuel issue was introduced to an oil thread?
In NZ we have some strange thought patterns take weed killer as an example. First read the instructions, then double the mix rate just to make sure them weeds really die
Got to agree with MXNUT, manufacturers might just know what they are doing.
Threads like this are good as they help people learn to read between the lines of what is said and what is intended. The engine manufacturer will always lean toward safety for his product, oil manufacturer will lean towards oil.
Lets start a thread on oil additives

[pete376403]

Good article , good to see fuel companies working to reduce emissions as well as just expecting engine manufacturers to do it all. A reduction in Sulfur in the fuel will certainly change the characteristic's of combustion byproducts . That will be the reason they recommend an oil meeting a required certification level be used. No mention of Sulfur in the oil though so not sure why this fuel issue was introduced to an oil thread?:

I was querying the mention of high sulphur content diesel oils as it's something i havent heard of much before. My experience with diesel oils comes from an apprenticeship with GGH on Cat tractors. At that time Cat recommended series 3 - 30 (GGH used Caltex RPM Delo IIRC) although that was a long time ago (early 70s) so much may have changed since then.
The Shell article came up when I searched on "high sulphur rotella"

[tri boy]

Lets start a thread on oil additives

Aaaarrrrrghhhhhh..............

[That looks like fun]

Aaaarrrrrghhhhhh..............

Sorry mate I was just fishing

[That looks like fun]

I was querying the mention of high sulphur content diesel oils as it's something i havent heard of much before. My experience with diesel oils comes from an apprenticeship with GGH on Cat tractors. At that time Cat recommended series 3 - 30 (GGH used Caltex RPM Delo IIRC) although that was a long time ago (early 70s) so much may have changed since then.
The Shell article came up when I searched on "high sulphur rotella"

Point taken. I read the article and it was about lowering the sulfur content of diesel (fuel). There was no mention in the article of them lowering it in the oil. C3-30 was a Europa oil (all us old buggers who remember Europa please stand now and leave the room ) It was cutting edge technology (in the seventies).
Rotella, what sort of a name for oil is that Sounds like an Australian parrot

Diesel oil in diesel engines, motor bike oil in motor bike engines. You can cut a slice of cheese with a chainsaw but that don't make it the right tool for the job

[NordieBoy]

You can cut a slice of cheese with a chainsaw but that don't make it the right tool for the job

What job is cheese the right tool for then?

[That looks like fun]

What job is cheese the right tool for then?

Causing smelly farts, constipation and making toast taste good
Next question please

[Kokopelli]

Just for the record. The 1150 is now at over 130000km and has so far survived my efforts to service it with Castrol 20-50 from the Warehouse. I change the oil every 10000km. This bike will need to do at least another 130k km before I can retire it to the back of the garage. For some reason it chews through pivot bearings, possibly due to corrugations in the road. Don't think it comes from commuting.

[clint640]

The thing I like about the green Total synth is it's easy to see when it is getting old as it changes colour.

One thing that has always bugged me about the 640 is that the oil turns dark & filthy looking almost immediately after a change, has done from new on every type of oil I've tried.

Hard case that Crazyfrog's 640 lunched a cam bearing @ 35K with 3K oil changes, same bearing on mine was worn but still going at 50K with 5K changes.

Cheers
Clint

[CrazyFrog]

Hard case that Crazyfrog's 640 lunched a cam bearing @ 35K with 3K oil changes, same bearing on mine was worn but still going at 50K with 5K changes.

Thats LC4's for ya, mine was a 2000 model tho, without the hi flow head. And I didn't have any service history when I bought it, so who knows. When the motor was pulled apart, everything else was mint, so it was just one of those things I guess.
What pissed me off the most, was it happened 850km into the 2009 Dusty Butt, so officially, I DNF'd, but unofficially, I completed it (on the back of a BMWR1150GS). I wouldn't recommend the GS ADV models rear pillion seat, especially after 850kms on a KTM!