Just in case you didn't think you were a second class citizen...

[riffer]

Can you refuse to take your helmet off? Or will they arrest you & make you take it off at the station for the picture?

I have no idea. I'd like to hear from people who've personally been stopped and had the police ask to take their picture. AFAIK there's no legal requirement to do so.

IANAL but usually if a policeman requires you to perform a task they will quote the relevant legislation and reason for the request. If they don't you shouldn't legally have to comply if you don't want to.

[Berries]

Passing this one on to my contacts in ACC & NZTA, tis too easy not to. Some might complain they're being targetted though?

Probably be as useful as the personalised plates bollocks they send out at the moment. Have you seen the crap they have on the NZTA website ?

Can you refuse to take your helmet off? Or will they arrest you & make you take it off at the station for the picture?

If they want the photo with the helmet off then it isn't going to be much use catching those naughty people when riding. I really can't see the point of the photo thing at all. Helmet on ? Oooh, look. Matt black helmet. That'll be Sid.

I think it is just for a wankfest back at the station.

[munster]

I guess it just reminds me of the old school days when the teacher kept the whole class in because some dickhead at the back was being a wanker.

Just picking on bikes IS discriminatory, especially on the Coro Loop. One person above has already mentioned cars with boats not staying on their side of the white line. From my own experience on the loop I can add trucks, buses, 4WD's etc. Where's their targeted safety campaign?

[swbarnett]

I don't want my riding curtailed. And I certainly don't want a tiny minority of idiots to ruin it for all of us.

It has become very clear to me lately from comments like that above that a lot of people just don't get human nature. There will always be idiots that any "sensible" rider would rather didn't exist and there's nothing we can do to change this. We may be able to reduce the number of said idiots but they will always be with us to some degree. This is just the nature of the beast.

Another point I take issue with is the thought that these "idiots" are causing us grief in the form of unwanted attention from government and law enforcement. It's the dis-proportinate response of TPTB that's the problem. Just as a teacher has no right to detain the whole class based on the actions of one individual.

[doc]

Coro loop has been heading for this treatment for a longtime. Poker runs are probably the next thing on the agenda. Organised drink driving for many.

[Fatt Max]

I just hope that the cops wave.....

[Pixie]

Shit, how can so many of you be so fucking obtuse?

The point is this:If you are doing no wrong,who has the right to stop you and upset your day because they assume you are about commit an offence?
Considering that most NZers are so proud their forefathers fought against the Nazis,it is surprising that so many of you are so willing to accept police state behaviour from the authorities.

Wake the fuck up or continue to bend over and spread those cheeks - your choice.

Oh,and start saving for the next levy increase.

[Maha]

Is it a given that an attempt to photogragh the bike owner will take place or is a conclusion jumping thing at this stage?
One mention of it somewhere early in the thread and its read as gospel.
I heard the cops were going to 'roger' every Suzuki owner.

[Katman]

The point is this:If you are doing no wrong,who has the right to stop you and upset your day because they assume you are about commit an offence?

You're obviously easily upset.

[yungatart]

'waste his time'??

WTF, dya think he gets paid by the number of bikes he stops???

He's there for his shift - how long YOU hold him up is of no concern to him.

But if it made ya feel better......

No, it didn't make me feel better.
I was livid.
I was the fifth vehicle in a line of 13, all trundling along doing nothing wrong, and I was the only one singled out for his special treatment.
What else could I have done? Nothing, nadda, not a single solitary thing...and that is precisely the point!
He had no reason to pick me out of the line of traffic, I had done nothing wrong. He was just an arse. I could have ranted and raved....but then I would have failed the attitude test!
So I took my time 'finding' my licence all the while watching his anticipatory grin get bigger at the thought that I wouldn't be able to produce the required bit of plastic....ka ching!
Pathetic protest I know, but very little else available to me.

[Eyegasm]

Read the whole thread...
can sum it up in one word...

Whinge

[Fatt Max]

I heard the cops were going to 'roger' every Suzuki owner.

Fuck it, why did I buy that Aquilla......oh well...

[Grubber]

Shit, how can so many of you be so fucking obtuse?

The point is this:If you are doing no wrong,who has the right to stop you and upset your day because they assume you are about commit an offence?
Considering that most NZers are so proud their forefathers fought against the Nazis,it is surprising that so many of you are so willing to accept police state behaviour from the authorities.

Wake the fuck up or continue to bend over and spread those cheeks - your choice.

Oh,and start saving for the next levy increase.

You want police state....then i suggest you go to Thailand or Singapore even.
Wouldn't get too hung up on a cop having a wee chat just to make sure all is well.
Huge over reaction IMHO.

[aprilia_RS250]

Sorry but I'm very worried about my tyres cooling down if I get pulled over. Need them warm and sticky for those stunning corners on the loop.

[The Pastor]

Hardly surprising

am I reading that correct when it clearly shows speed as NOT the biggest killer, but failing to give way is?