400cc sport/road bike

[tigertim20]

cheers for the comments, i am just asking questions as more of a curious point of view than an interested one right now as i am still on my learners and some of them took my fancy (as a lot of bikes do... )

and yeah i youtubed a few vfr400 vids, they do have a pretty unique sound

seeing as they are slightly cheaper then the 600/650 range (which most go to), just a bit to think about one day when it is time to upgrade and wondered if you would get sick of a 400 after a while

in short, yes you will. I have an R1 now but last bike was a 91 cbr600. while i had the 600, i bought a vfr400 as a toy. it was alot of fun, and sounded great, and fuck me was that thing the shit in corners man!, however i very quickly tired of it, in favour of the 600.
for me its like this. get 250. ride, get ful licence, then either
buy 400, get used to it in a month or two, thrash it a couple months more, then get bored, or
buy a 600, have enough to play and have fun, but more power than you can use for a longer time.

I guess what I mean is that a 600 gives you more 'growing room'. I know there are people out there that love the 400s, but to be honest, Id suggest just getting a 600. or a 2 stroke 250 with a gp engine . . . hehehe

[Gibbo89]

in short, yes you will. I have an R1 now but last bike was a 91 cbr600. while i had the 600, i bought a vfr400 as a toy. it was alot of fun, and sounded great, and fuck me was that thing the shit in corners man!, however i very quickly tired of it, in favour of the 600.
for me its like this. get 250. ride, get ful licence, then either
buy 400, get used to it in a month or two, thrash it a couple months more, then get bored, or
buy a 600, have enough to play and have fun, but more power than you can use for a longer time.

I guess what I mean is that a 600 gives you more 'growing room'. I know there are people out there that love the 400s, but to be honest, Id suggest just getting a 600. or a 2 stroke 250 with a gp engine . . . hehehe

yeah good call, what did you have before the 91 cbr?

[kiwi cowboy]

ahh ok, guess i was looking at naked 400 at the time, not the faired version

If your looking for a 250 personaly [some will disagree] i would look at the v twins.
I remeber mid 80s i had a gsx400 impulse and my brother hat a vt250.
He could pull out to pass on open road in top gear with good pickup but for me to keep up i would have to klik down to gears [corse then i could piss all over him but i road his once and on a certain piece of road with a corner with a climb on my gsx400 i would hit it in 4th to keep it boiling but was amazed at the torque when i hit that corner in top on the vt it just pulled away.
I guess its torque verses horsepower as the impulse was hopless below 7 grand.
My 2 cents

[Jonno.]

Couldn't disagree more. 400's are great; you can have heaps of fun without going 180km/h everywhere. NC30's look awesome and have a pretty big following (400greybike). Also parts are readily available (I can call up econohonda and ask for most things and they have it in stock). Also David Silver spares in the UK are pretty cheap.

If you like riding 180+ then sure a 600 is probably a better idea. However around the speed limit there's not a much in it IMO.

[piston broke]

man,my poor old 600 duck only has 53 horse

[Gibbo89]

If your looking for a 250 personaly [some will disagree] i would look at the v twins.
I remeber mid 80s i had a gsx400 impulse and my brother hat a vt250.
He could pull out to pass on open road in top gear with good pickup but for me to keep up i would have to klik down to gears [corse then i could piss all over him but i road his once and on a certain piece of road with a corner with a climb on my gsx400 i would hit it in 4th to keep it boiling but was amazed at the torque when i hit that corner in top on the vt it just pulled away.
I guess its torque verses horsepower as the impulse was hopless below 7 grand.
My 2 cents

i have an inline 4 250 at the moment, i drop it into 5th to pass cars. it goes pretty well, i would like a wee screen put on the headlight though. the force feels like i'll take off if i took my hands off the handle bars when i'm on the open road.

[piston broke]

btw.
i wouldn't swap my 53hp for a 106hp rice burner

[PirateJafa]

At one point, I had three and a half VFR400Rs in my garage.

Sold it for a >130hp IL4 supersports toy, which got sold six months later to go back to a 400.

The NC30 is the bike of the connoisseur.

[Gibbo89]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-302236019.htm

i do like the look of that bike

[Morcs]

and NC35 is better than the NC30.

NC35 is the only bike that ive owned two of. they are simply sublime.
No other 400 compares for quality, looks and spec.

[PirateJafa]

and NC35 is better than the NC30.

NC35 is the only bike that ive owned two of. they are simply sublime.
No other 400 compares for quality, looks and spec.

The NC35 is over-rated, given it's ugly fairings and lack of power.

The marginal improvement in flickability is just that - marginal.

But still, better than a six-hundy.

[tigertim20]

yeah good call, what did you have before the 91 cbr?

before the CBR, was an FZR250, and before that was a Yamha XZ400, despite it being heavier than rosie Odonnel, and handling like a piece of shit, and being unreliable, it was one of the coolest bikes ive ever owned, and lots more before that. ive gone sorta up and down alot! Also had a TZR with the CBR (sold tzr, got vfr)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-302236019.htm

i do like the look of that bike

that is a gorgeous example. very nice

Couldn't disagree more. 400's are great; you can have heaps of fun without going 180km/h everywhere. NC30's look awesome and have a pretty big following (400greybike). Also parts are readily available (I can call up econohonda and ask for most things and they have it in stock). Also David Silver spares in the UK are pretty cheap.

If you like riding 180+ then sure a 600 is probably a better idea. However around the speed limit there's not a much in it IMO.

I never said anything about riding at 180 evrywhere, hell cbr250s will do 180. It depends on the type of riding you do. I often do 1500km+ trips, or go 7-800km non stop, apart from a piss and fuel up, so I personally appreciate having the ability to simply open the throttle and pass 2-3 cars on long straights. On the 400, in the same scenario, it was just more work. I did say, and will say again though, that the vfr was the best bike Ive owned for corners, better than the TZR. absolutely awesome bike in the really tight stuff.

Its diffferent horses for different courses, I prefer having something I can do everything on. For me, a 600+ is the best all rounder. I did 700km non stop the other weekend on the R1 (done same trip many times on the cbr) and wasnt even a tiny bit sore. next day, no tiredness or soreness. none at all. No fucking way would I feel that way after the same trip on a 400! I also find 600s have enough grunt to lope around town on with no hassle. also 400s will suffer big time when you wanna put someone on the back, or take a heavy load to a rally, but again, not everyone wants to go to rallies, or carry people on the back. fuck my mrs would kill me if i told her she wasnt allowed on back!!

[Smifffy]

The thought has often occurred to me of getting an FZR 400 for not much bux and ummmmmmmm doing things to it

[tigertim20]

The thought has often occurred to me of getting an FZR 400 for not much bux and ummmmmmmm doing things to it

elaborate?...

[Smifffy]

elaborate?...

either adjusting the styling reminiscent of one who goes from latte joint to latte joint against the jukebox, or something out of an anime/manga nightmare...