Where are all the sidecars?

[Shaun]

Yeah why aren't bron and adam racing?

Adam.s chair is totally pulled apart getting fully checked for safety reasons

Steve Bron is very busy with work, and is spending more of his money on having 2 more chairs re built to supprt another 2 teams for the nats

I guess these guys also have the experience now, that they actually do not need to do club racing, club racing is for up and comers and has beens like myself.

Accasionally you will see named top 2 wheel riders, but Normally only closer to nats kick off

[sidecar bob]

I guess then, that if the up & comers dont recieve the support of the guys that run at national level, then the up & comers wont support the nationals & we will have insufficent entries come nationals & they will need to fabricate false entries the same as last year just to get a start.
Its a case of communal back scratching.
A lot of the teams make an effort all year 'round, not just come the nationals.
Notice that my hawt missus is at every meeting on the pink bike, except for the south isl nats, because the number of rounds was mucked around with until we damn near lost the will to live & cost us our airline tickets etc.
Sidecar racing is far too small for an us & them attitude.

[Deano]

Ha im sure i penilised ya at wanganui last year!

Na bro you just got in my way is all....

[prettybillie]

I guess then, that if the up & comers dont recieve the support of the guys that run at national level, then the up & comers wont support the nationals & we will have insufficent entries come nationals & they will need to fabricate false entries the same as last year just to get a start.
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This is exactly right - with all the bull shit that goes down, people forget about the riding. Because of the fact that we now may not get a ride at the last two rounds of the winter series, we won't have enough stamps to do the tri-series, paeroa or nationals.......We may as well sell the chair and give up.

We get great support from the guys out there racing and lots of advice and help and we really appreciate it (Sidecar Bob, Jelly Wrestler, Old Rig, Shaun - to name just a few) but the formal bodies need to sort their crap out and stop it affecting those of us who just want to ride!!!!!!

[imdying]

From a spectators perspective, the side cars are more enjoyable to watch than all the GSXRs put together, would be a real shame to lose them.

[Shaun]

This is exactly right - with all the bull shit that goes down, people forget about the riding. Because of the fact that we now may not get a ride at the last two rounds of the winter series, we won't have enough stamps to do the tri-series, paeroa or nationals.......We may as well sell the chair and give up.

We get great support from the guys out there racing and lots of advice and help and we really appreciate it (Sidecar Bob, Jelly Wrestler, Old Rig, Shaun - to name just a few) but the formal bodies need to sort their crap out and stop it affecting those of us who just want to ride!!!!!!

Systems can suck eh, but to epect the more experienced crews to turn up at all winter series meetings to help the new crews get there license stamped is a little much to expect realy.

I know Adam was at the first Vic round this year, and as his chair is pulled apart, he will not be at this coming one, but are very confident that he would attend as many as poss after this round.

Perhaps at the next vic round, the chairs could race over on the Short back track if not enough entries again to justify the time involved in deleting 2 wheel races? Just a thought, NOT a dig

[Kickaha]

A lot of the teams make an effort all year 'round, not just come the nationals.

The number of sidecars doing Manfeild and the fact they're struggling to get just 6 on the grid would indicate otherwise

I would say a very small number of teams make an effort all year round or these "club rounds" would be better supported

[prettybillie]

Systems can suck eh, but to epect the more experienced crews to turn up at all winter series meetings to help the new crews get there license stamped is a little much to expect realy.

Totally agree with this comment - you don't see Stroud doing any club series and no one expects him to be there....to expect the same out of our champion sidecar riders would be a double standard.........

I just want to ride though........whatever it takes..........and on top of that we'll be doing some awesome wheelies in the pool they are going to call manfield track this weekend!

[Kickaha]

Systems can suck eh, but to epect the more experienced crews to turn up at all winter series meetings to help the new crews get there license stamped is a little much to expect realy.

I disagree, I would think the fact that sidecars get very little club racing during the year should mean when a club puts rounds on for them as many crews as possible should support them regardless of their experience especially if it means another crew gets their three stamps and puts another Sidecar on the grid for Nationals/Streets

[roadracingoldfart]

An ignorant question here , not a dig or a biased slant....
If the sidecar and solo riders have to complete 6 race meetings to qualify for the Nationals or Tri Series then a mixture of VMCC and PMCC is all it takes for a solo bike , where does a sidecar do its 6 rounds ???
If there is a shortage of rounds or the 6 meetings are not attended , do the less than 6 round chairs still get to contest the Nats or Tri series ?.
It seems to me if i was contesting a chair i would be doing all the rounds i could or is the Nats and Tri series not really aspired to by them ? .
Where did all the classic chairs from Wanganui do thier 6 rounds prior to that event ??

Paul.

[sidecar bob]

An ignorant question here , not a dig or a biased slant....
If the sidecar and solo riders have to complete 6 race meetings to qualify for the Nationals or Tri Series then a mixture of VMCC and PMCC is all it takes for a solo bike , where does a sidecar do its 6 rounds ???
If there is a shortage of rounds or the 6 meetings are not attended , do the less than 6 round chairs still get to contest the Nats or Tri series ?.
It seems to me if i was contesting a chair i would be doing all the rounds i could or is the Nats and Tri series not really aspired to by them ? .
Where did all the classic chairs from Wanganui do thier 6 rounds prior to that event ??

Paul.

The classic chairs do NZCMRR, which right now is where the real chair racing is frankly.
An alarming percentage of modern sidecar owners at the pointy end of the field, think that the national champs, pathetic as they have become, is all they own a sidecar for. No have a go day, no winter series etc. A very sad situation.
Im not actually sure wether i have in fact answered your question though.

[Kickaha]

I thought it was only three meetings?

You don't have to do three per year though, which means you have people who might do three meetings in their first year and then do no racing from then on during the following year and only come out for the likes of Wangas

It should be a minimum three per calendar year or you can't do streets

[sidecar bob]

I thought it was only three meetings?

You don't have to do three per year though, which means you have people who might do three meetings in their first year and then do no racing from then on during the following year and only come out for the likes of Wangas

It should be a minimum three per calendar year or you can't do streets

Which begs the question, why would you bother owning a sidecar if you only do three meetings a year. You may as well stay home & spank ya monkey.

[Kickaha]

Which begs the question, why would you bother owning a sidecar if you only do three meetings a year.

Got me fucked to but people do, same as the odd one or two of them have outfits sitting in their sheds that haven't been used for years

You may as well stay home & spank ya monkey.

Something I reckon you'd have a lot of experience at

[yorkshire raceramesh]

I'm just getting started on building outfit for next season. I raced in England for years and am just getting back into it here. I'm looking at producing outfits for sale running 600 motors. The biggest problem (speaking from an outsiders view) seems to be the massive difference in performance between outfits by having to run all in 1 class.
My thoughts (and others I've talked to) are that if a HIGH QUALITY outfit can be produced, that is affordable, easy to set up and relatively cheap to maintain, it would encourage a few more people to dip a toe. Even if you could get 5 more crews out there on more or less identical machinery then you should get some close racing. For my part I've had heaps of help from various people, Kickha, Sidecar Bob, Andy Scrivvener to name a few and I'm very greatful. Obviously I'm aiming at nationals but would be only too pleased to continue at club meetings and help out where I can.
I'm getting back into this because I'm passionate about my sidecars and want to help drag the sport up to a level it should be at.