Revolting teachers!

[Squiggles]

Wahey! I saw you! I was in the march too!

Some seem to appreciate the work we do, but there's also a few that don't. I'm a rather youngish/newish teacher and people seem incredulous that I'd want to be a teacher ... some of these people being other teachers! I definitely think we are undervalued in this society.

For the haters who think otherwise, I would gladly let them do my job for a week to help them understand. No? You don't want to do my job? Hrm...

I want to but the Uni's are sure taking their sweet time / making things difficult when it comes to doing a Graduate Diploma!

[Smifffy]

I want to but the Uni's are sure taking their sweet time / making things difficult when it comes to doing a Graduate Diploma!

Yeah, the Moll finds this too, but not to worry the Unis will also cancel more courses and the NZIS will allow more yarpie teachers in to fill the gaps.

[PrincessBandit]

I want to but the Uni's are sure taking their sweet time / making things difficult when it comes to doing a Graduate Diploma!

And training college doesn't make it any easier either when you have to do the course part time 'cos you're already teaching! (Think 14 weeks of practicum away from your NCEA students...)

[Mom]

Yeah, the Moll finds this too, but not to worry the Unis will also cancel more courses and the NZIS will allow more yarpie teachers in to fill the gaps.

My daughter is a teacher, languages, English and Japanese and cant find a permanent job.

[MSTRS:Me]

I don't have much sympathy for the teachers and their apparent poor pay. I know what other school staff have to put up with.

[spajohn]

Does anyone know what nurses get on average? Did I hear correctly that they want double (4%) what nurses got, not to mention the stats over the last x years...and they don't want to be held accountable for kids learning standards/achievements?! WTF.

[MSTRS:Me]

Does anyone know what nurses get on average? Did I hear correctly that they want double (4%) what nurses got, not to mention the stats over the last x years...and they don't want to be held accountable for kids learning standards/achievements?! WTF.

Nor do they want pay rates to reflect individual's classroom results.
= no incentive to be the best they can.

There's some teachers out there that I wouldn't trust to teach an empty room....

[Bald Eagle]

Regrettably everyone is following the media spin on this and being blinded by the 4% figure.

The reality is that the current Minister is trying to claw back many of the conditions of work that had been hard won over the past decade.

The salary of a teacher divided by the actual hours of work done is less than slave labour.

If this society wants to focus on penny pinching and not value the shapers of the next generation then we truly are sinking further toward a status as a third world country.

[MSTRS:Me]

... the shapers of the next generation ....

Regrettably true. Scary.

[Swoop]

Good on them. I bet their management has already been given a healthy payrise this year.

Class sizes need to be part of their protest, coupled with the need to bring them down.
Consider 35 kids in a class. That gives 1min 42 seconds of direct contact per pupil per hour.

[SMOKEU]

Does anyone know what nurses get on average? Did I hear correctly that they want double (4%) what nurses got, not to mention the stats over the last x years...and they don't want to be held accountable for kids learning standards/achievements?! WTF.

My mum is a nurse and gets around NZ$100k a year (before tax).

[MSTRS:Me]

Good on them. I bet their management has already been given a healthy payrise this year.

Class sizes need to be part of their protest, coupled with the need to bring them down.
Consider 35 kids in a class. That gives 1min 42 seconds of direct contact per pupil per hour.

Which is one of the areas that is so wrong with the present system.
Streaming, or banding, or whatever you want to call it is coming back. The brighter kids/classes get just the teacher. The dumber (or behaviour problem) kids/classes get a Teacher Aide to assist.
All this does is ensure the bright kids are on their own, and the bottom end kids get all the extras. Socialist mediocrity follows.

[avgas]

Teaching is a long time commitment.
Teach the kids what you want from the government, and wait 30+ years.

[Banditbandit]

Which is one of the areas that is so wrong with the present system.
Streaming, or banding, or whatever you want to call it is coming back. The brighter kids/classes get just the teacher. The dumber (or behaviour problem) kids/classes get a Teacher Aide to assist.
All this does is ensure the bright kids are on their own, and the bottom end kids get all the extras. Socialist mediocrity follows.

Do it the other way around and unemployment follows - with high crime, substance abuse, teen pregnancies and solo parents - all the evils you also rail against ...

Bright kids can learn from poor teachers - not so bright kids need better teachers ...

[MSTRS:Me]

Do it the other way around and unemployment follows - with high crime, substance abuse, teen pregnancies and solo parents - all the evils you also rail against ...

Bright kids can learn from poor teachers - not so bright kids need better teachers ...

No dispute. But the top classes should get the same 'assistance'. Instead they rely on the cream floating to the top all by itself. Think how much more cream there would be if the playing field was level.