Spoiler: MotoGP Sepang.

[rachprice]

We know lots go on behind the garage doors, who really knows? Different circuits seem affect his results. On another site I follow there are guys that reckon the factories control it all. Whatever , I bet Rossi was fired up to win that. G.

Yeah but some circuits you think would be worse on his shoulder but if he does well there is no talk of it


He knows exactly how to work the media, to be honest I think he whines as much as the rest of them but he manages to get away with it because he has portrayed himself in exactly the way he wants....has the media round his little finger! An extremely intelligent man!

[carbonhed]

In the Eurosport commentary they we're talking about Rossi moving under the red light at the last race... so I didn't imagine it. Not getting pinged for it is just total bullshit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

In the Eurosport commentary they we're talking about Rossi moving under the red light at the last race... so I didn't imagine it. Not getting pinged for it is just total bullshit.

He could've been pinged a couple of times over the years for cutting across the track too but never has been.

[roogazza]

[QUOTE=rachprice;1129880894]Yeah but some circuits you think would be worse on his shoulder but if he does well there is no talk of it

That's what I mean, some circuits may be worse for his problems, only he knows.
Watch 2011 he'll be there.

[Ivan]

Yeah but first lap crashes? I realise the front end has been a bit of an issue, but he was looking on fire, pushing a little hard before he got enough heat into the tyres?

But also they are getting Burgess, I don't Rossi would be nearly as good without him

Those tires have enough heatin themk they are on warmers for ages then they do a warm up lap then start the race I am gathering you have not used tire warmers yet? I am not picking on you either by the way just saying something tire warmers make the tires ready to go from the word go

[Ivan]

Rossi was the best rider there on the day,

its a shame about Hayden I really like him as a rider but he just didnt do it this time heres hoping next year for him

[Crasherfromwayback]

its a shame about Hayden I really like him as a rider but he just didnt do it this time heres hoping next year for him

Really think he'll be much better off when they go back to the thous

[rachprice]

Those tires have enough heatin themk they are on warmers for ages then they do a warm up lap then start the race I am gathering you have not used tire warmers yet? I am not picking on you either by the way just saying something tire warmers make the tires ready to go from the word go

Ah no worries, no I havent used them, just seems a bit weird he has had a few front end crashes really early on

[Crasherfromwayback]

Those tires have enough heatin themk they are on warmers for ages then they do a warm up lap then start the race I am gathering you have not used tire warmers yet? I am not picking on you either by the way just saying something tire warmers make the tires ready to go from the word go

That's not actually quite right. They still need to do a couple of laps at race pace to get them well and truly up to temp.

[discodan]

Those tires have enough heatin themk they are on warmers for ages then they do a warm up lap then start the race I am gathering you have not used tire warmers yet? I am not picking on you either by the way just saying something tire warmers make the tires ready to go from the word go

That's true to an extent but I read somewhere that the optimum temperature for those bridgestones is well above 100c and the warmers would be about 70-80c so there is still a fair bit of temperature missing when they go for thier warmup lap.

Having said that, you would think that he would have crashed on one of the first corners rather than the last if his tyres weren't up to temperature.

[Ivan]

That's true to an extent but I read somewhere that the optimum temperature for those bridgestones is well above 100c and the warmers would be about 70-80c so there is still a fair bit of temperature missing when they go for thier warmup lap.

Having said that, you would think that he would have crashed on one of the first corners rather than the last if his tyres weren't up to temperature.

Yip,

I just think that the crash happened due to pushing it the first lap as you would know is always the most intense as everyone is all red misted and going for it then it starts to settle down a bit

[pritch]

Yeah but some circuits you think would be worse on his shoulder but if he does well there is no talk of it

Not entirely true, it was discussed briefly, but in some detail during the Motegi commentary.

Apparently he was anticipating the shoulder being more of a problem there but the the symptoms are worse if the bike is leaned over while braking.

As for Rossi the development rider, Mat Oxley in the November issue of BIKE:
"No one else has such an ability to absorb, compute, and translate, bike behaviour. Every engineer you speak to - from Yamaha to Ohlins to Bridgestone - agrees that Rossi gives clarity of feedback like no other."

Of course I realise that Oxley's CV and years of experience (Google it if you have to) will be as nought compared to some on KB

[roogazza]

Not entirely true, it was discussed briefly, but in some detail during the Motegi commentary.

Apparently he was anticipating the shoulder being more of a problem there but the the symptoms are worse if the bike is leaned over while braking.

As for Rossi the development rider, Mat Oxley in the November issue of BIKE:
"No one else has such an ability to absorb, compute, and translate, bike behaviour. Every engineer you speak to - from Yamaha to Ohlins to Bridgestone - agrees that Rossi gives clarity of feedback like no other."

Of course I realise that Oxley's CV and years of experience (Google it if you have to) will be as nought compared to some on KB

I have several of Max Oxleys books, he's been around a long time. I remember him doing bike tests and racing Production in the 70's.

I don't doubt Rossi will adjust the Ducati to suit, if it even has problems ? G.

[rachprice]

Not entirely true, it was discussed briefly, but in some detail during the Motegi commentary.

Apparently he was anticipating the shoulder being more of a problem there but the the symptoms are worse if the bike is leaned over while braking.

As for Rossi the development rider, Mat Oxley in the November issue of BIKE:
"No one else has such an ability to absorb, compute, and translate, bike behaviour. Every engineer you speak to - from Yamaha to Ohlins to Bridgestone - agrees that Rossi gives clarity of feedback like no other."

Of course I realise that Oxley's CV and years of experience (Google it if you have to) will be as nought compared to some on KB

Maybe.... still I think there maybe a little truth in it, like I say he is a smart man and knows how to work the media!

And no doubt he is an amazing development rider, I said knowing him he would probably get it working. Rossi has been around a long time and at the top, he couldn't just be riding on others to be there. I just don't think as quickly without Burgess.

And if you are implying that I think I know better, I am the first to admit I don't know much

[rachprice]

Yip,

I just think that the crash happened due to pushing it the first lap as you would know is always the most intense as everyone is all red misted and going for it then it starts to settle down a bit

Pushing it on a cold tyre??

Anyway Ducati and Stoner both have said it probably was a cold tyre. Interestingly though Stoner said he didn't want to push it too hard on the first lap because he knew they would be cold......could be subject to recall bias though!