Police saving our lives again

[Scuba_Steve]

That 'Losing Control' one is interesting, shall we say. Every single crash I've ever heard of involved losing control. I mean, if you didn't lose control, you wouldn't have crashed in the first place. The other types are just variations of losing control, surely.
Ergo - losing control should be targetted by DECENT FECKING TRAINING!!!

"losing control" is the scape goat like "speed" when they can't claim "speed" & other factors weren't present, So as any moron can work out more crashes happen under speed limit than over it, ergo its safer to "speed"... So there we have it "speeding" saves lives!

[trailblazer]

i will be out for a nice long ride over the weekend. It don't bother me if they drop the tolerance on speeding cause if you aint speeding you won't get caught. Having said that im bound to get my first speeding ticket on my bike this weekend. Doh

[AllanB]

Meh. What's the bloody issue - you lot bleating about the police ticketing people who speed?

I may be missing something but is that not part of their job description?

I'll be riding, if I get caught over the limit I'll be nothing but polite.

[Toaster]

NO problem with police doing their job as long as it is done within the law they themselves are sworn to uphold and within their own code of conduct.

I would LOVE to see regular media time on clamping down on burglars, thieves and drug dealers. The govt want a war on P... so where is the army fighting it?

Half of them are sitting out on straight sections of highways meeting "performance targets".

[HenryDorsetCase]

Meh. What's the bloody issue - you lot bleating about the police ticketing people who speed?

I may be missing something but is that not part of their job description?

I'll be riding, if I get caught over the limit I'll be nothing but polite.

yup, concur.

I did 160kph on the old girl last weekend (in perfect safety mind you)

time and place people, time and place

[trailblazer]

Meh. What's the bloody issue - you lot bleating about the police ticketing people who speed?

I may be missing something but is that not part of their job description?

I'll be riding, if I get caught over the limit I'll be nothing but polite.

thats the right attidude. Why get pissed at the cop if you are the one breaking the law. No wonder you get cunty cops as they have probably just had sum wanker bitching and abusing them for getting caught breaking the law.

[HenryDorsetCase]

NO problem with police doing their job as long as it is done within the law they themselves are sworn to uphold and within their own code of conduct.

I would LOVE to see regular media time on clamping down on burglars, thieves and drug dealers. The govt want a war on P... so where is the army fighting it?

Half of them are sitting out on straight sections of highways meeting "performance targets".

sure, but that is an issue you raise with your local politician, or J Kizzle or "thank jeeble I bought a widescreen TV" Gerry Brownlee.

ranting at the grunts on the coal face is pointless, unless and until they do something they shouldnt (Mr Bridgman, say)

You may as well have argued the wisdom of the D Day landings with one of the poor bastards on one of them little boars, and not the high command. Or talk about counterinsurgency with a grunt in Fallujah, instead of with Petraeus and Obama. See where I'm going with this?

[myvice]

But it’s all in the name of safety!
If we don’t speed, even a little bit, we will never get hurt!
It’s true, I saw it on TV…
At 100kph you’re as safe as if you where in bed, but at 105…
Well, no chance at all really.
When that little truck towing that boat turns in front of you this sunny weekend with only 2 seconds to react before you hit it, you can relax knowing that you’ll be fine as you weren’t going over the limit.
That’s how it works.

[Scuba_Steve]

NO problem with police doing their job as long as it is done within the law they themselves are sworn to uphold and within their own code of conduct.

I would LOVE to see regular media time on clamping down on burglars, thieves and drug dealers. The govt want a war on P... so where is the army fighting it?

Half of them are sitting out on straight sections of highways meeting "performance targets".

& therein also lies the problem, the whole process of issuing tickets is Illegal aint no 2 ways about it they break NZ law every-time 1 is issued & judges break the law every-time they side wif da cops without reason

[Kickaha]

& therein also lies the problem, the whole process of issuing tickets is Illegal aint no 2 ways about it they break NZ law every-time 1 is issued & judges break the law every-time they side wif da cops without reason

Your full time job is stand up comedy isn't it?

[Shadowjack]

At 100kph you’re as safe as if you where in bed, but at 105…

At the moment, not where some of us live, not necessarily...

[scumdog]

Your full time job is stand up comedy isn't it?

Ya think?

[Scuba_Steve]

Your full time job is stand up comedy isn't it?

Nope

Everyone who is charged with an offence has, in relation to the determination of the charge, the following minimum rights:
(a) The right to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial court:
(c) The right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law: (this is beyond reasonable doubt)
(e) The right to be present at the trial and to present a de­fence:


That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegall and void.

[scumdog]

Nope

Everyone who is charged with an offence has, in relation to the determination of the charge, the following minimum rights:
(a) The right to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial court:
(c) The right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law: (this is beyond reasonable doubt)
(e) The right to be present at the trial and to present a de­fence:


That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegall and void.

YOU worry too much!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Nope

Everyone who is charged with an offence has, in relation to the determination of the charge, the following minimum rights:
(a) The right to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial court:
(c) The right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law: (this is beyond reasonable doubt)
(e) The right to be present at the trial and to present a de­fence:


That all grants and promises of fines and forfeitures of particular persons before conviction are illegall and void.

illegal has three l's not four.

(with Hitcher crook, someone has to point this shit out, right?)

How does receiving an infringement notice from a lor enforcement offisher contravene, abrogate or diminish those rights?

(hint: you need to read the back of it)