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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    I concur. Although now of course they will be able to say they have a 'moral' victory.

    Idiots.
    second that.....

    who needs the gubbermint to cause unemployment the unions are doing a super job by them selfs

    hobbit = employment and turnover

    union + greed = unemployment

    Thankyou Unions for denying the 1000's of people who would have gained employment in the many different trades required too film the Hobbit..

    Thankyou Unions for helping me relise your a bunch of useless fuckwits

    Thankyou Unions for now making me $20 a week richer
    ,now I wont be paying union fee's

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    Just read this...paints a completley different picture than what is in the media at the moment.

    http://www.getfrank.co.nz/peter-jack...on-the-hobbit/

    if thats legit...well, no words needed really.

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    'I think that when all the smoke clears and it becomes apparent what machiavellian manipulations have gone on, the studios will not emerge squeaky clean as the hapless victims of bolshy unionism...'

    A lot of milage to be gained by the bosses. OZ dollar just went higher than the US with little fan fair. Plenty of good times in OZ, the lucky country. I like their unions. NZ sucks in comparison, the workers need more security and autonomy. The 9 day fortnight, or 3 day weekend, what a good fucking idea but noooooooooooooooooooooo
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    have as many 3 day weekends as you like, do you expect the employer to pay you for your time of?? mind you you could always fuck off to auss if its so good there

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustyrobot View Post
    It wasn't clear to me what it was all about anyway. The media reports have only been about the fracas, not whatever it was that the actors union wanted and the film's backers didn't.

    Anyone have any idea what they were asking for/denying?
    >To be treated as employees instead of contractors for the legislative protection i guess (expensive for the company because of all the compliance costs plus stuff like annual leave, sick leave, acc employer levy). Gives them the ability to negotiate a collective and go on strike.
    >To get residuals from ongoing sales (I believe)
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    When are the fucking unions going to realise there is a recession on!!!

    Teachers union, radiographers union, actors union get fucking real for fucks sake!!!

    Think your worth more money??
    Then go get a job that pays more!!
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    excellent... you have several actors employed, but the conditions aren't great.

    You play hard ball... and now the conditions AND pay are non-existent because they're all out of work.

    Time to sit back and cry success huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    mind you you could always fuck off to auss if its so good there
    I did, and lo - it was good!

    There's far more to this dispute than it seems the media care to report about - but then, what do you expect from that general bunch of semi literates.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Graham View Post
    When are the fucking unions going to realise there is a recession on!!!
    CEO pay lifts off as profits stagnate
    Despite most of the companies surveyed reporting falling profits, the pause in pay rises for top executives appears to have been limited to a single year.

    The average pay rise received by chief executives increased from 1 per cent in 2008 to 13 per cent last year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    >To be treated as employees instead of contractors for the legislative protection i guess (expensive for the company because of all the compliance costs plus stuff like annual leave, sick leave, acc employer levy). Gives them the ability to negotiate a collective and go on strike.
    >To get residuals from ongoing sales (I believe)
    In other words they wanted the best of both worlds. The protection offered by the labour laws to employees and the commercial freedom of a contractor.

    Wankers.

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    Enjoy your day off on Monday......


    Oh yeah none of you will take that.

    I believe the unions are simply asking for parity with their overseas counterparts whilst working on this film and the same rights to residual sales and profits, the movie company just wants to make the film in the cheapest location possible with as many tax breaks they can get. I understand the rings movies whilst they paid a lot of folks to be in work the income to the country was negligible once offset against the tax credits.

    Didn't Sir Peter have take the studios to court to even get the millions he was owed?

    Aww fuck it they are just kiwis and who the hell do they think they are asking for a fair deal.
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    Rule of life.

    It's ok to say "fuck you" when you have a plan B (aka alternative employment)... (well it's rarely ok because we live in a small country and word gets around)

    They did have all of that sorted before they gave the big ol' "fuck you" right?
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    Hobbits are so 2001


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