Somebody in a hurry then?

[Edbear]

a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...

Maybe I'm just plain unlucky. I've been riding bikes for 40 years and never been targetted. I admit to regularly riding at speeds in excess of 160km/h over the years and generally cruising 20 - 30km/h over the limit when I was a bit younger. I've never been stopped while riding, oh, hang on I was stopped at a Reg/Wof checkpoint a couple of years ago but he waved me on without checking mine... I've never had a ticket for anything on my bike.

I have never been patronised, or treated unfairly in any interaction with the Police. I treat the Police with the same respect I treat everyone, maybe that's why I don't seem to have confrontations with anyone...

The answer seems simple, really. Don't break the law, or if you do, accept the consequences. If you don't agree with the law, remove yourself from society or lobby the lawmaker's for change. We have to live in a society and cannot afford anarchy which naturally means we must sacrifice some of our preferences for the general good.

The only way you can rebel without consequence is to live on your own island, provide your own rules for yourself and also provide every single service you require for yourself. You depend upon the society you live in for your very survival, therefore you have to accept that you are not the most important person alive, nor should your preferences and wants take precedence. You are a nobody, just like me, a number in the IRD, your not even a star or a VIP.

People are people - in the Force or out of the Force, in the Ghetto's of South Auckland or in Parliament and there are good and bad everywhere. You will find you will enjoy life much more without so much angst if you develop a more pragmatic attitude.

[miloking]

Maybe I'm just plain unlucky. I've been riding bikes for 40 years and never been targetted. I admit to regularly riding at speeds in excess of 160km/h over the years and generally cruising 20 - 30km/h over the limit when I was a bit younger. I've never been stopped while riding, oh, hang on I was stopped at a Reg/Wof checkpoint a couple of years ago but he waved me on without checking mine... I've never had a ticket for anything on my bike.

I have never been patronised, or treated unfairly in any interaction with the Police. I treat the Police with the same respect I treat everyone, maybe that's why I don't seem to have confrontations with anyone...

The answer seems simple, really. Don't break the law, or if you do, accept the consequences. If you don't agree with the law, remove yourself from society or lobby the lawmaker's for change. We have to live in a society and cannot afford anarchy which naturally means we must sacrifice some of our preferences for the general good.

The only way you can rebel without consequence is to live on your own island, provide your own rules for yourself and also provide every single service you require for yourself. You depend upon the society you live in for your very survival, therefore you have to accept that you are not the most important person alive, nor should your preferences and wants take precedence. You are a nobody, just like me, a number in the IRD, your not even a star or a VIP.

People are people - in the Force or out of the Force, in the Ghetto's of South Auckland or in Parliament and there are good and bad everywhere. You will find you will enjoy life much more without so much angst if you develop a more pragmatic attitude.

I guess you have been bit more lucky than me with the unwanted attention & patronising, but at the same time i must admit i did get away with some rather "naughty" speeds too so maybe iam being unfair and need to see the bigger picture.
But i understand and agree with the rest of what you said, and not sure if i come accross that way but i never implied iam "better" than any of you or that i deserve different treatment, i know we are all just IRD numbers or employee numbers etc..

Also your solution of more pragmatic attitude is a good one for sure....

[Patrick]

There's a school 'not far' from everywhere ffs, sensationalist bullshit

Do you even know where Eltham and Normanby is? There is life beyond the Bombays.... and schools....

Ohh i think that "blitz" you are talking about has been happening for last 30 years already...cops hate bikers and we hate cops...its pretty simple.
You will persecute us for the smallest of mistakes whenever you get a chance to make up for all the "cocks" that got away.... and we will try to get away for all those times you punished us for nothing, thats the way it is and always will be!

This guy just changed the score +1 to bikers...your move now!

Whats this "you" crap... You don't even know me, or what I do, exactly....

There isn't a blitz on bikers. I am meaning a blitz where any biker, anywhere, will be stopped for WOF/Rego and license checks, any where, any time. Not just at the occasional bike rally.....

Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....

As for "taking it out on some other cock..." get real. What has one cocks attitude got to do with anyone else?

Kinda like your attitude toward all cops, I guess. It is how YOU see things....

... At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

[I]So your modified car will have a LVV Cert.... and where exactly is this Cert...?[I]

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

Yeah, but "everyone else is such a poor driver.... but not me" prevails here in NZ.....

What if ?

What if ??

What if ???

What if ????

What we know.... he got away safely

No one was hurt... huh only the police are hurting lol

Yeah.... Thats it... hurting.... We are all losing sleep over it. I think some even cried. FFS....

a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

"Always???" Get out of Auckland then. Worked for me.....

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

perhaps the problem is you...? I've been stopped by cops, looking forward to meeting this mystical offensive prick, but never had the luck. ALL have been polite and friendly. Hang on - there was this one from Wanganui Highways, he might have been who you refer to... My experience of dickheads to decent is 1:20....

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

Try smaller centres. Shitties just aren't that great a place to live.....

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...

Good luck with that. Civil folk get civil treatment. Arseholes get shit. It is all in the book of life.

[Edbear]

...Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....

....

This was my point to Smokeu as to how many runners get away with it. Sure, many chases are abandoned but the culprit gets caught later on. Have you got stats on the percentage of runners who do get away completely?

[Patrick]

This was my point to Smokeu as to how many runners get away with it. Sure, many chases are abandoned but the culprit gets caught later on. Have you got stats on the percentage of runners who do get away completely?

Across the country? Nope.

Me personally? None.

[miloking]

Whats this "you" crap... You don't even know me, or what I do, exactly....

The "you" was generalisation ...not you personaly, i dont even know if you are a cop for sure but you sound like one...and now you say you've been in plenty of pursuits and got your man every time...so maybe i wasnt that far away with the "you" comment...

There isn't a blitz on bikers. I am meaning a blitz where any biker, anywhere, will be stopped for WOF/Rego and license checks, any where, any time. Not just at the occasional bike rally.....

I will say only this..CORO LOOP & NELSON BLITZ on bikers..do you want a link to the official press realease about "blitz" on bikers or you just forgot about this????

Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....

Nothing against that....its a fair game i guess, but not sure what you mean by got my man every time..

As for "taking it out on some other cock..." get real. What has one cocks attitude got to do with anyone else?

Kinda like your attitude toward all cops, I guess. It is how YOU see things....

I've had my experiences...where cop i've never seen before starts off after pulling me over with "have i ever stopped you before" sentence...and treats me like i've been warned before so this time its time to teach me lesson.
SO DONT tell me cops dont treat us...peasants like we are all same person!

[Motardman]

PS. Thanks for the red rep.

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get

[Edbear]

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get

Go back and read what you wrote.

[Motardman]

Go back and read what you wrote.

Being 'privileged' I'm quite capable of remembering what I wrote.....and I'm sure I said I wasn't going to carry on replying.... +1 on your troll status Have fun in bendover for the law land

[scumdog]

I've had my experiences...where cop i've never seen before starts off after pulling me over with "have i ever stopped you before" sentence...and treats me like i've been warned before so this time its time to teach me lesson.
SO DONT tell me cops dont treat us...peasants like we are all same person!

See?

You have the 'gift' I mentioned earlier, not sure if I really envy you though...

[caseye]

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get

you know around here some of us are exceptionally gifted and others like me are just plain old and stupid.
While reps are able to be given by everyone it's my humble opinion that those who don't know how to use em should not be given the privilage.
Rep's while not important in the overall scheme of things do tend to indicate someones standing in the KB community, after all it's only us rating/slating each other.
If you drop reds that easily your'e probably in for a long haul here as eventually common sense will prevail and you and those of the same ilk on this thread are are not exhibiting much of that currently.
236 KPH anywhere other than on a race track is madness and indicates a total disregard for anyone else using that stretch of road.

[far queue]

No you only are excluded...i forgot to mention that earlier...now stop trolling with your self centered bulshit and GTFO if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion..

OK I'll type slowly for you and spell it out since you clearly didn't understand my contribution.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason and are making sweeping generalisations about ALL motorcyclists and ALL police. From what you say these generalisations appear to be based on YOUR personal experiences. Your life experiences are just that - yours! They're not mine, and not anybody elses. If you feel aggrieved for the way you've been dealt with in the past that's your feeling not everybody elses. So you look a bit silly ranting the way you are and trying to lump everybody in together. Also you don't seem to like people disagreeing with you, so you probably haven't liked this either. Oh well.

As for my personal experiences - I can only recall one tosser of a cop. That was many years ago and he was a young spotty MOT cop who was full of his own self importance and wasn't at all happy that he lost the argument he instigated with me. Since then I've had no problems at all - I've had a few roadside bollockings (that I've deserved), I've had a number of tickets (that I've deserved), I've had a number of polite warnings (where I deserved a ticket). I've also had contact with the police outside of anything traffic related, where I've required their service, and found them to be great. Maybe the approach has something to do with it?

Of course, they're also just people. Every organisation has its share of good bastards and tossers, and everyone has their good days and their bad days.

Here's an idea, why don't you apply to join up and fix the problem you perceive from the inside? Or is complaining easier?

Enough of a contribution for you?

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

[Edbear]

...Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

I think I had one of those... The wheel fell off...

[scumdog]

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

My mate has a Pontiac GTO - maybe it's a bit like one of them??

[miloking]

OK I'll type slowly for you and spell it out since you clearly didn't understand my contribution.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason and are making sweeping generalisations about ALL motorcyclists and ALL police. From what you say these generalisations appear to be based on YOUR personal experiences. Your life experiences are just that - yours! They're not mine, and not anybody elses. If you feel aggrieved for the way you've been dealt with in the past that's your feeling not everybody elses. So you look a bit silly ranting the way you are and trying to lump everybody in together. Also you don't seem to like people disagreeing with you, so you probably haven't liked this either. Oh well.

As for my personal experiences - I can only recall one tosser of a cop. That was many years ago and he was a young spotty MOT cop who was full of his own self importance and wasn't at all happy that he lost the argument he instigated with me. Since then I've had no problems at all - I've had a few roadside bollockings (that I've deserved), I've had a number of tickets (that I've deserved), I've had a number of polite warnings (where I deserved a ticket). I've also had contact with the police outside of anything traffic related, where I've required their service, and found them to be great. Maybe the approach has something to do with it?

Of course, they're also just people. Every organisation has its share of good bastards and tossers, and everyone has their good days and their bad days.

Here's an idea, why don't you apply to join up and fix the problem you perceive from the inside? Or is complaining easier?

Enough of a contribution for you?

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

Well thats better, you dont have to be so patronising but nobody is perfect...ok let me tell you something about those experinces that are "just" mine and nobody elses...i can count at least 10+ people from my friends (some of them also ride) that have very similar experience with cops ...e.g 99% of cops they came across were nothing to be desired, mostly arrogant cocks!
(but on the positive side we do get to exchange our "cop" stories and its sometimes bonding experience too)...hell, even my mother hates cops with passion and trust me she doesnt ride a bike.
So yes i did generalise by including you personaly into the "we" statement and perhaps i generalised by saying "all cops hate bikers" but from the "limited survey" of my personal experiences and experiences of people around me i formed my own opinion of NZ Police.

However iam glad that your experience with them was different and i must say it does make me little bit jealous...
Now think how easy it must be for hot girls riding bikes they probably never get tickets at all...

One more thing, i appreciate the suggestion about joining police myself and removing the rot from the inside, its actualy great idea...but iam affraid that my family would disown me so unfortunately it isnt an option...