Police saving our lives again

[Quasievil]

This cash cow you talk of, this 104 ticket... is a $30 ticket. How many of these got issued in the weekend? There were 3 at 110kmph in the Naki. Nothing for less......

My comments extended a bit further in relation to the cash cow actually, i.e. the speed cameras.
Meantime over labour weekend the NZ motorist spent most of his time watching his speedo not the road due to the pathetic non achievable road safety campaign to make the Police and the government feel better about their non abilitiy to make a difference on NZ goat tracks.

you dont seriously believe the Police and the governments road safety policies have made any difference to the safety levels on our roads do you?

[MSTRS:Me]

you dont seriously believe the Police and the governments road safety policies have made any difference to the safety levels on our roads do you?

Officially that's exactly what the belief is. And the minions do what they are told, including spouting the same flawed garbage. Exposing this bullshit isn't enough to stop it though. I don't know what is...

[Edbear]

Down here we video intersections for stop sign runners and red light runners, on hand held cameras. The speed is also looked at, but the videos are keeping the crew rather busy........

Yeah, we get out and about a lot, but the behaviours are markedly improved when there is a cop car in the
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Red light runners are a curse! I saw one particularly brazen example the other day. Two red lights run at high speed by an SUV, unfortunately I couldn't get his number.

It's amazing the difference a visible cop car makes to the driving standards! I usually wind up passing cop cars as they cruise below the speed limit generally. If I'm doing 105 on the speedo, I don't slow down and follow, and I've never been given more than a glance as I cruise by.

[Ocean1]

Exposing this bullshit isn't enough to stop it though. I don't know what is...

The rank and file aren’t necessarily ideologues, bear in mind they get support for their behaviour, they hear stories in the canteen reinforcing the righteousness of their role. Likewise, the press have a similar effect with the negative stories they run, (seriously) because they’re so poorly researched and presented they’re laughable. I’d be surprised if the local cops did have a balanced understanding of the public feelings about any given policy.

To stop it? Simple, make it cost more than it earns.

[MSTRS:Me]

To stop it? Simple, make it cost more than it earns.

Nup. Their tame ACA's will simply point out the imbalance of revenue, and TPTB in the beehive will reset the rate of fines.

[Patrick]

In some cases, yes. But only if the camera is close to, and has direct sight of the 'speeding' vehicle, and is following said vehicle.

What about the "I heard your engine and you were speeding. Here's your ticket" scenario?

Never been there, never done that... never seen that....

Aye, and the damage it does is no less than the transformation of rule of law into anarchy.

Think I’m exaggerating? How’s the crimes of violence involving police trend looking?

A few bad apple examples publicised, a simple public statements of regret would damn near cover it. Haven’t seen one, but then I haven’t been looking.

Nope - you haven't...... So you've missed them, then...

My comments extended a bit further in relation to the cash cow actually, i.e. the speed cameras.
Meantime over labour weekend the NZ motorist spent most of his time watching his speedo not the road due to the pathetic non achievable road safety campaign to make the Police and the government feel better about their non abilitiy to make a difference on NZ goat tracks.

you dont seriously believe the Police and the governments road safety policies have made any difference to the safety levels on our roads do you?

Hard to say - but it isn't a one fix thing. There are many reasons why the toll drops, but as long as it drops, no one can say what one thing is the cause. It is usually a combination. Better car manufacturing/lower speeds? Or is it road repairs and better suspension? Good tyres on shitty cars? All of the above? Some of the above? Who knows.

[Ocean1]

Nope - you haven't...... So you've missed them, then...

Care to reference the missing bulletins?

[Brian d marge]

Yea I don't disagree with this, but people are often bagging individual police officers who are just doing their job, they don't make the laws they enforce them. So if people have complaints about the police pinging them for something they disagree with it's not that individual police officers fault, he is following orders/laws that he is goverened by and swore the oath to enforce/protect.

Obviously there are times when the individual officer could have made a different/better judgment call when using his discretion, but in general they just enforcing what the bosses up top tell them too.

And its how its is enforced , if you were doing 120 on an open stretch of road on a well maintained bike , with all the other relevant taxes paid up ( and prayed up)

It should be something like a warning , ,,,, education is the key ...

SOMETIMES this happens ,,,,but unfortunately , the reverse is all to true , follow them rules and lies .

I pity the poor sod on the coal face , but at least have the balls to tell your superiors , to take a running jump when the said Laws are clear revenue gathering ,

I support effective policing , I don't support the current regime

Stephen

[Patrick]

Care to reference the missing bulletins?

Wouldn't know how too... too computor illiterate.... but I've seen the odd boss or three front up on TV, saying "This persons actions let us all down." The cop who was getting sexual favours from the hooker - and was convicted recently; the lying cop who fitted up the 16 year old crash kid recently - and was convicted recently, just two examples that spring to mind....

[MSTRS:Me]

...the lying cop who fitted up the 16 year old crash kid recently - and was convicted recently....

Yeah. It only took 4 years. And a lot of effort from non-Police experts, for something that should have been self-evident to SCU.
The wheels of justice turn (even) slow(er) for some...

[Patrick]

Yeah. It only took 4 years. And a lot of effort from non-Police experts, for something that should have been self-evident to SCU.
The wheels of justice turn (even) slow(er) for some...

It was a simpe crash - supposedly - so I doubt the SCU would have been involved at all.... initially.....

[miloking]

Yeah. It only took 4 years. And a lot of effort from non-Police experts, for something that should have been self-evident to SCU.
The wheels of justice turn (even) slow(er) for some...

Hmm this kinda makes me wonder how that investigation of Mr.Brown's "u-turn" accident is going...been like what 7-8 months. i guess 3 years to go now...

[MSTRS:Me]

It was a simpe crash - supposedly - so I doubt the SCU would have been involved at all.... initially.....

Whatever. But any idiot could figure out who was where and doing what, as evidenced by the angle/point of impact.

[Patrick]

Whatever. But any idiot could figure out who was where and doing what, as evidenced by the angle/point of impact.

Dunno - wasn't there. Were you..?

Who knows what the scene looked like.... only those that were there would be able to determine something, even wrongly... but my sympathies to the kid.

[Ocean1]

... but my sympathies to the kid.

If you've never been on the other end of it then you have my best regards, dude. But you ARE aware, aren't you, that a lot of people have had similar experiences, eh?