Police powers, part 2

[MSTRS:Me]

Firefighter, you may be surprised. The cops most certainly do keep an eye on here, and have indeed gained info from here.

...and used it for what? Certainly not in their efforts at road safety.

[Gremlin]

...and used it for what? Certainly not in their efforts at road safety.

I think its most common for court cases or judge of character. As for how they use it... we all know government departments take stats and twist them to their cause...

[firefighter]

Firefighter, you may be surprised. The cops most certainly do keep an eye on here, and have indeed gained info from here.

And every other site in existence when there is a possible requirement.......ie. when there is protest action looming. That is about it. To say "they keep an eye on here" is rediculous.

They would in no way attach staff to monitor this forum at any other time. Not only would it be a waste of time and completely uninteresting, it would take up resources they quite simply do not have.

Motorcyclists, and especially this forum just are'nt that interesting to ousiders. We are'nt. It's true, if you don't ride you have no interest in bikes or the people involved with them, unless they're gang members or put into your line of sight.....even then bikes have long since stopped being related to gangs.

I've been off the bike for a couple of months now, for irrelevant reasons, and I have to say other than pulling over to let bikes pass I could'nt care less either.....imagine how people with no interest in bikes feel.

They have far more interesting and time-consuming shit to deal with. I dunno where people think they get all this spare time to watch 'us' from.......

[firefighter]

This should seal it.

Probably not to the deaf/blind/stubborn but here you go. Straight from a text message from a West Auckland cop.......who is a good friend of mine.

"what the fuck is kiwibiker?"

[scumdog]

...and used it for what? Certainly not in their efforts at road safety.

True.

It's for shits'n'giggles and winding up drongos, THAT'S the reason I'm here!'

[Gremlin]

This should seal it.

Probably not to the deaf/blind/stubborn but here you go. Straight from a text message from a West Auckland cop.......who is a good friend of mine.

"what the fuck is kiwibiker?"

uh... I'm not saying EVERY cop monitors KB, but there are certainly a few that do. Not saying its a full time job either, but when there are matters pertaining to their interest... then they do.

I won't go into more detail, but I've been contacted by them right before major events, as I appeared to be an organiser, they wanted to talk etc.

It's for shits'n'giggles and winding up drongos, THAT'S the reason I'm here!'

And you're always welcome... preferably clothed...

[red mermaid]

No, KB is the centre of the universe and MSTRS is its prophet.

And every other site in existence when there is a possible requirement.......ie. when there is protest action looming. That is about it. To say "they keep an eye on here" is rediculous.

They would in no way attach staff to monitor this forum at any other time. Not only would it be a waste of time and completely uninteresting, it would take up resources they quite simply do not have.

Motorcyclists, and especially this forum just are'nt that interesting to ousiders. We are'nt. It's true, if you don't ride you have no interest in bikes or the people involved with them, unless they're gang members or put into your line of sight.....even then bikes have long since stopped being related to gangs.

I've been off the bike for a couple of months now, for irrelevant reasons, and I have to say other than pulling over to let bikes pass I could'nt care less either.....imagine how people with no interest in bikes feel.

They have far more interesting and time-consuming shit to deal with. I dunno where people think they get all this spare time to watch 'us' from.......

This should seal it.

Probably not to the deaf/blind/stubborn but here you go. Straight from a text message from a West Auckland cop.......who is a good friend of mine.

"what the fuck is kiwibiker?"

[firefighter]

right before major events, as I appeared to be an organiser, they wanted to talk etc.
.

Is'nt that what I just said?! When there is something significant happening, like a protest.......

To think they're even slightly interested at any other time is crazy.

[MSTRS:Me]

It's for shits'n'giggles and winding up drongos, THAT'S the reason I'm here!'

No, KB is the centre of the universe and MSTRS is its prophet.

Oh look. There's one now...

[Gremlin]

Is'nt that what I just said?! When there is something significant happening, like a protest.......

To think they're even slightly interested at any other time is crazy.

Evidently we're going to have to agree to disagree. I used my case as an example. I did say... "they keep an eye on here". That doesn't, by definition mean they are reading every post and every thread, researching every member etc (except the tin foil hat people would love that).

Define significant? A court case coming up, and there is evidence on KB that lends credence to their case... you bet it's going to be used. I think some KB'ers have even had KB threads used against them...

The police will use whatever tools necessary and at their disposal to do their job, ensure criminals are caught, cases are won etc. They're using what, Facebook in Queenstown? It's working...

Fact is, KB is one of the largest NZ forums and comfortably the largest motorcycle forum... of course they will keep an eye on things that interest them

[Muppet]

Was pulled up by the same police man the other day in same place but not speeding this time,I have my licence back after the twenty eight day by the side of the road suspension. "I read youre entry on kiwi biker" he says.
"did you ?' im surprised to say. . " yes we monitor kiwi biker !".

That's bullshit. It's the Royal "we", he means himself.

[ducatilover]

You never told me you are a prophet MSTRS!

This could end up like the life of Brian....

[Banditbandit]

If they monitor this site why the fuck am I sitting on 90 demerits???

.. who'se been a naughty little biker then ? Doing something a bit risky have we ????? Endangering your own safety and the safety of others ????

But seriously ... that's not cool man ... I was up there .. and feeling paranoid .. 'til I finally went passed the dreaded 100 ....

Good luck .. I Hope some points drop off before you get caught again ...

[Banditbandit]

I'll say it. Bullshit.

So he knew you were on kb, had he somehow memorised all the members on here and found their names out, or does comms have a list of them and it pops up when they pull you over?

Man what a deluded load of piss. Us motorcyclists really are a very small unimportant minority in the eyes of the rest of the population.

I cannot believe anyone was stupid enough to believe this crap. If you were, slap yourself in the face and give yourself a sack-tap.

And every other site in existence when there is a possible requirement.......ie. when there is protest action looming. That is about it. To say "they keep an eye on here" is rediculous.

They would in no way attach staff to monitor this forum at any other time. Not only would it be a waste of time and completely uninteresting, it would take up resources they quite simply do not have.

Motorcyclists, and especially this forum just are'nt that interesting to ousiders. We are'nt. It's true, if you don't ride you have no interest in bikes or the people involved with them, unless they're gang members or put into your line of sight.....even then bikes have long since stopped being related to gangs.

I've been off the bike for a couple of months now, for irrelevant reasons, and I have to say other than pulling over to let bikes pass I could'nt care less either.....imagine how people with no interest in bikes feel.

They have far more interesting and time-consuming shit to deal with. I dunno where people think they get all this spare time to watch 'us' from.......

Naaa ... it makes sense to keep an eye on the site. As a snap shot of current biker attitudes and reactions to new laws .. to ACC ... to many of the things discussed .. it's pretty damm good .. it would make a lot of sense to monitor this site ... I'll bet good money that ACC did/still do ...

What surprises me is how many KBers are surprised - enough members have identified themselves as cops ... do we know if they are at work or not when the post ? No ... and not only does that allow them to monitor the site, it allows them to drop in comments to see what our reactions are ... any PR person or moderately competent social psychologist would tell you there's a mine of information here about bikers ...

[Patrick]

Firefighter, you may be surprised. The cops most certainly do keep an eye on here, and have indeed gained info from here.

Gained info? Not me... I just give info sometimes...

....And you're always welcome... preferably clothed...

Yeah - keep that tassle covered....

...do we know if they are at work or not when the post ? ....

Definitely not. Not allowed to. Remember Porngate? Same kinda thing - 'cept the porn is way better here.....

And we all know how piss poor that is on here....