Police crackdown

**Crazy Steve** · 14th November 2010, 18:27

Originally Posted by scumdog

P.D.

Maybe it was something else he was waving..But it was a check point and they were the Nz Police and I didn't stop...

Crazy Steve.

**AD345** · 14th November 2010, 20:46

The cops do this because they can

They can do this because it's the law

It's the law because parliament passed it

Parliament passed it because the Govt. of the day thought there were votes in it.

Thats the leverage point right there.

Now - to use that leverage we have 2 options

1. The Katrman premise: Improve motorcycling standards and behaviour so that less (MUCH less) havoc is reported to the great unwashed as being caused by motorcyclists thereby gaining wide public support for an easing of enforcement activity and a reduction in targeting.

2. The 'fuck-em all" approach: Cause widespread civil disturbance and massive (REALLY big) public inconvenience thereby getting the great unwashed to clamour very very loudly that 'something be done" to pacify us and allow them to get on with their lives.

Option 2 is used widely across the globe. It can be a bit dodgy with authoritarian type governments but has proven to be very successful in Western democracies with wideapread media coverage.

Option 1 has never been used with success

...anywhere

...ever.

.

**miloking** · 15th November 2010, 00:43

Originally Posted by AD345

...

2. The 'fuck-em all" approach: Cause widespread civil disturbance and massive (REALLY big) public inconvenience thereby getting the great unwashed to clamour very very loudly that 'something be done" to pacify us and allow them to get on with their lives.

...

Well, dont have to worry about me...already been doing my "fuck'em all" approach for while now.

All we need now is everybody to start doing runners from their "safety leaflet check points"....i think they would get the idea soon enough.

(obviously those who are already safe by riding registered bike and not having licence suspended etc. are welcome to stop for their lolipop & safety pamphlet)

Viva la resistance...

**Littleman** · 15th November 2010, 08:19

Originally Posted by miloking

Well, dont have to worry about me...already been doing my "fuck'em all" approach for while now.

All we need now is everybody to start doing runners from their "safety leaflet check points"....i think they would get the idea soon enough.

(obviously those who are already safe by riding registered bike and not having licence suspended etc. are welcome to stop for their lolipop & safety pamphlet)

Viva la resistance...

Sure you have mate.

I've called your bluff on here before.

If you can't man up with a keyboard, can't imagine you being a tough guy without one.

**miloking** · 15th November 2010, 09:23

Originally Posted by Littleman

Sure you have mate.

I've called your bluff on here before.

If you can't man up with a keyboard, can't imagine you being a tough guy without one.

Are you saying i dont have a bike rego on hold?
Are you saying i've never done runner from cops before? (successfuly or not)
Are you saying that my licence isnt currently suspended for another 2 months?
(and therefore that i will happily pull over and have my bike impounded ?)

What exactly is your point, with this "called your bluff"?

**Katman** · 15th November 2010, 10:59

Originally Posted by miloking

Over my fucking dead body.....

It could be arranged.

My policy has always been, no road test - no WOF.

**sugilite:Me** · 15th November 2010, 16:30

Yeah, I'm with Katman on this one, my bikes have been road tested at wof time for over 25 years. I can remember a certain WMC mechanic getting a bollicking for thrashing my RG250 up their drive and off into the distance

**Pixie** · 17th November 2010, 06:55

Originally Posted by bogan

thats the thing though isn't it, they would greatly object to being lumped in with a badly performing minority, while doing the exact same thing to every biker stopped

Perhaps "a certain organisation" could get some leaflets printed to hand to the cunstables describing how to complete a change of direction on a public road without killing somebody.

**bogan** · 17th November 2010, 07:05

Originally Posted by Pixie

Perhaps "a certain organisation" could get some leaflets printed to hand to the cunstables describing how to complete a change of direction on a public road without killing somebody.

Depends on how overbearing the checkpoints are I reckon...

**BoristheBiter** · 17th November 2010, 07:06

Can't belive i am going to say this but i agree with miloking

No one will be getting on my bike. they don't take a car for a test ride so they don't need to ride my bike.

And scumdog if crazy steve didn't talk PD he would have nothing to say.

**nodrog:Me** · 17th November 2010, 07:15

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

........ they don't take a car for a test ride .......

For a WOF? Of course they do, how else do you think they do the brake test?

Fanny.

**Katman** · 17th November 2010, 07:27

Originally Posted by AD345

Option 1 has never been used with success

...anywhere

...ever.

.

You've just made me all the more determined.

**Katman** · 17th November 2010, 08:14

Originally Posted by AD345

Now - to use that leverage we have 2 options

1. The Katrman premise: Improve motorcycling standards and behaviour so that less (MUCH less) havoc is reported to the great unwashed as being caused by motorcyclists thereby gaining wide public support for an easing of enforcement activity and a reduction in targeting.

And add to that.......

By improving motorcycling standards and behaviour we would encourage more and more people to see motorcycling as a viable and rewarding transport option thereby swelling our ranks to the point where we would have the numbers to force the overturning of the laws that introduced the enforcement activity and targeting.

Imagine the changes we could get implemented if instead of being 2% of the voting population we became 10%.