Ohlins for FXR

[Damien_Toman]

Love the Tui ad.

I use the standard shock on the middle setting and it works fine. An adjustable one would be better, no doubt. It's the front end that I have issues with. I'm on #15 oil and might try going back to standard #10. I went to 15 to try to minimise diving but now it does not track well on the bumps. Anyone else on #10?

[jasonu]

Love the Tui ad.

I use the standard shock on the middle setting and it works fine. An adjustable one would be better, no doubt. It's the front end that I have issues with. I'm on #15 oil and might try going back to standard #10. I went to 15 to try to minimise diving but now it does not track well on the bumps. Anyone else on #10?

I've got a set of Aprillia 40mm USD forks with triple clamps and stem for sale if anybody wants them. $475.

[TZ350]

I went to 15 to try to minimise diving but now it does not track well on the bumps.

Gold Valves from RT are the hot ticket for controling Dive.......

[xr-rider]

So seeing as FXR150 is far and away the most popular racebike in New Zealand, is it possible to come up with an out of the box shock? plenty are expiring with no good reliable source of replacment , wreckers dont have any, looks like people are going to want something. Choices Ohlins Ckt doesnt sound very enthusiastic, Yss have to deal overseas, or import a bunch of used shocks from Thailand.
if the research , parts selection bla bla was out of the equation could you come up with a good quality one shock fits all solution? Like Hagon do for many bikes

any bike shop that deals with whites powersports should be able to get a yss. im not sure how it works with shops/importers but there aim was that people could walk in to a bike shop and purchase the shock. Im not 100% sure on the facts to do with it though

[Damien_Toman]

Gold Valves from RT are the hot ticket for controling Dive.......

Sounds expensive . I was thinking 10 oil with a little extra?

[RMS eng]

Love the Tui ad.

I use the standard shock on the middle setting and it works fine. An adjustable one would be better, no doubt. It's the front end that I have issues with. I'm on #15 oil and might try going back to standard #10. I went to 15 to try to minimise diving but now it does not track well on the bumps. Anyone else on #10?

you may need to try stiffer springs,fit air valves to fork caps or if they are damper rod forks weld and re-drill the holes smaller.if you need this work done phone chris 09 817 9500 RMS eng

[Buckets4Me]

Sounds expensive . I was thinking 10 oil with a little extra?

it's racing not a three legged sack race

[Damien_Toman]

you may need to try stiffer springs,fit air valves to fork caps or if they are damper rod forks weld and re-drill the holes smaller.if you need this work done phone chris 09 817 9500 RMS eng

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Damien_Toman]

it's racing not a three legged sack race

Off to a witty early start , I see, B4M . "Gold" valves do sound expensive . I'm serious about trying #10 oil topped up a bit more than standard as it is easy for me to do and if (when?) it does not improve things I might investigate those good options. Has anyone found modern upside-down adjustable forks that fit?

[jasonu]

Off to a witty early start , I see, B4M . "Gold" valves do sound expensive . I'm serious about trying #10 oil topped up a bit more than standard as it is easy for me to do and if (when?) it does not improve things I might investigate those good options. Has anyone found modern upside-down adjustable forks that fit?

I've got a set of Aprillia 40mm USD forks with triple clamps and stem for sale $475 ono. Might not 'bolt right on' but shouldn't be too hard. Call Chris Pickett 09 817 9500, he will be able to tell you what will be involved and even do it for you.

[TZ350]

"Gold" valves do sound expensive

As they work differently to old damper rods, its the way Gold Valves (Emulators) function that makes them good and worth the $$$.

Damping rod forks are notorious for being both too harsh and too easy to bottom. This is the nature of damping rod fixed orifice forks. Until now, all you could do is change spring rate, oil viscosity and damping hole size. The best available was a serious compromise.

Simply put Emulators make damping rod forks perform like well-tuned cartridge forks. Emulators are tunable compression dampining valves that sit on top of the damping rods and are held in place by the main springs.

A good read that explains the difference between emulators and damper rods. http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_9502_tech/index.html

[Damien_Toman]

Thanks for the info. TZ. Does sound good.

[Robert Taylor]

Hell what a can of worms.

Still i am some way off needing a new shock... need to get it running well first.

BUT when i do... at least I now have a few options.... paint the spring... add an ohlins sticker and walk around with my nose in the air....

heee

Interesting perspective? Even if you did spend $690 I dont think that gives anyone the right to walk around with their nose in the air. Even if it was $6900.........

[Robert Taylor]

I had mine built in Aussie at YSS and it has been great (original spring). I think I payed around $550 $600 including shipping my shock to them. Rebound and compression adjustable. They also do emulators and springs for the front. There is no issue with them as long as they are setup correct. They couldn't manage a ride height adjustable version something to do with the shock being so short.

I can say with 100% conviction that apples for apples, rider for rider and bike for bike a pedigree Swedish shock optimised to the bike ( with added length ) will outperform a seemingly adjustable Asian built shock. Having external adjusters is seemingly a great idea but its the spec inside the shock that really counts. Thats where over 30 years of supplying suspension at the very sharpest ends of road racing and having the biggest r&d suspension department really pays dividends. Many other companies follow and copy but cut corners in key areas such as quality and friction reduction etc. Lower price is always attractive but there are always reasons for that
As I said before though each to their own, there isnt a whole load of margin in such work for me but why Im insistent on having the bikes is being able to optimise to the nth degree. Maybe such an attitude is more worthy of respect in that it shows we work to a standard rather than a price, even if its inconvenient.

[Robert Taylor]

they where to stiff and bounced a few riders off (not the shock but a setup problem. They where for off road use )
now chambers has a new frame FZR not the old gp125 suzuki ( you can throw money at something and still never get it anywhere near right)

these old guys will never go to the dark side and buy an FXR (if they did there would be 2 orders straight away)

$700 is half the cost of rebuilding a good engine and gives you more advantage ( it's not all about HP )


Attachment 224014 the old bike that scared people

Attachment 224015 how we see F4 racing

Thanks for the clarification, it rather emphasises what a lot of people throughout motorcycling fail to grasp, its more than about the shock just fitting the bike. Theres also another huge misconception, ''fully adjustable'' shocks are anything but!