North Auckland Street Skills - NASS

**TOTO** · 13th November 2010, 22:40

been through 3 police checkpoints in the last 2 days. No one gave me any trouble at all. I have no problem with them trying to tell us that "we should be safe riding our bikes"

**Big Dog** · 15th November 2010, 14:50

Originally Posted by TOTO

been through 3 police checkpoints in the last 2 days. No one gave me any trouble at all. I have no problem with them trying to tell us that "we should be safe riding our bikes"

In the last ten years of riding I have been stopped 3 times for breathalising at checkpoints, 2 times for warrant and reg checkpoints and once for speeding. Having said that I have been told many times that the North Shore Police are more proactive.

**p.dath** · 16th November 2010, 10:33

I had another meeting with Superintendent John Kelly this morning, and clarified the expected role of the Police (I used the term "knowledge transfer" - the Police will be used to transfer knowledge to the new riders).
From here John said he will write up a very simple agreement (that riders must have a licence, rego, warrant, safe bike, etc), which I'll accept on behalf of the group, and everything will be underway.

He also offered to get Katrina from ACC in contact to see if ACC can provide us with any assistance. I accepted his offer. Once again, no harm in asking for help. I'm not sure who Katrina is at the moment, but I shall start a dialogue with her.

**MarkH** · 16th November 2010, 11:21

Originally Posted by p.dath

He also offered to get Katrina from ACC in contact to see if ACC can provide us with any assistance. I accepted his offer. Once again, no harm in asking for help. I'm not sure who Katrina is at the moment, but I shall start a dialogue with her.

Remember the 1st rule of internet forums - if she's hot we'll be needing pictures.

**The Everlasting** · 18th November 2010, 07:50

For some reason they had closed the north western motorway,so I had to take a huge detour!!

Was rather annoying,not sure why it was closed.....

Oh and a big thanks to the mentors and fellow riders for a great ride,it was good to get to know some of you..

**Brown Bear** · 18th November 2010, 09:10

Another very worthwhile night again.Thanks to all, for there time i learnt alot.Now back to my quiet carpark to put into practice what i was shown.If you are new to riding as i am go along to the wednesday night Nass well worth it.

Matt

**p.dath** · 23rd November 2010, 09:31

I have had had a formal response (attached) from the Superintendent John Kelly from the Police saying he will grant permission for the Police to attend based on the prior conditions.

I intend to write a letter of acceptance unless I hear any last minute screams.

**R-Soul** · 23rd November 2010, 10:39

Originally Posted by p.dath

I have had had a formal response (attached) from the Superintendent John Kelly from the Police saying he will grant permission for the Police to attend based on the prior conditions.

I intend to write a letter of acceptance unless I hear any last minute screams.

Why no cops on the group ride? surely they could advise on riding lines and speeds etc?
It is a good place for them to poick up on potantial problems.
Also, more cops would volunteer for training if they could go on the ride...

**p.dath** · 23rd November 2010, 10:49

Originally Posted by R-Soul

Why no cops on the group ride? surely they could advise on riding lines and speeds etc?
It is a good place for them to poick up on potantial problems.
Also, more cops would volunteer for training if they could go on the ride...

Well, there is several things to consider:

Having a Police officer follow a learner on the ride the entire way may make them concentrate on their speedo too much, rather than their riding as a whole.
It may make new riders feel nervous.
Every minute the Police are spending help us is a minute they are not spending on more typical Policing. The Police want the maximum bang for the dollars being invested in the police resource.
There is a lot of potential for negative PR towards the Police should an accident occur on a ride they are participating in.

**Sharry** · 23rd November 2010, 16:40

Thanks Phil,
What you have been saying in regards to conversations with the police makes sense and seems totaly acceptable.
Thanks for all your work in this.

**Brown Bear** · 24th November 2010, 10:47

Damn will have to miss the NASS tonight.My bike has got a rattle somewhere at the top of the motor.Have booked it in for Friday,don't want to ride it to much until then.Next week hopefully.

Matt

**Neon** · 24th November 2010, 12:53

Anyone interested in a pre-NASS pootle - I will be departing from Shell Westgate at 5pm, returning to meet up with the NASS crew at 6.30pm. All welcome, can be learner friendly pace if needed

**JK12** · 24th November 2010, 17:01

Originally Posted by Neon

Anyone interested in a pre-NASS pootle - I will be departing from Shell Westgate at 5pm, returning to meet up with the NASS crew at 6.30pm. All welcome, can be learner friendly pace if needed

too late now otherwise I wouldn't mind a 5pm pootle

**BMCruiser** · 24th November 2010, 21:22

Good work Phil,

I always find the bike cops friendly when I come across them on the road. They always seems to acknowledge me with a nod or wave. I think it would be good to see them along at NASS when they can make it. After-all they are bikers too