Aging motorcyclists - Close Up tonight 30/11/10

[rastuscat]

I might be mistaken, but when being given a speeding ticket, aren't you entitled to ask to see the calibration certificate for the device that was used to determine your speed?

You are absolutely correct. You ARE mistaken.

You can ask for anything, including the officers birth certificate. You can even ask the officer to do 10 press ups. It's a question of what they HAVE to give you.

You are entitled to request documents pertaining to your case pursuant to the NZ Bill of Rights Act and the Privacy Act, but the right is not an immediate one. They have a "reasonable time" to comply, the courts normally think that 14 days is reasonable.

So there.

[baptist]

Just saw that close up program, what a pretzel that Mark Sainsbury is, his presentation is crap!

The Police section looked like a badly acted TV spoof comedy, I expected to see Benny Hill or Dick Emery appear at any minute!

You are awful, but......... I like you!!!!!!!

[Brian d marge]

You are absolutely correct. You ARE mistaken.

You can ask for anything, including the officers birth certificate. You can even ask the officer to do 10 press ups. It's a question of what they HAVE to give you.


So there.

A blow Jobs not an unreasonable request .......

Stephen

[baptist]

Dude, I haven't heard that expression since I left Dunedin 20 plus years ago... 'the wireless' now refers to broadband! We had an old radio that had valves, cooked on a coal range etc etc... ah the good old days.

did you also live in "a cardboard box in t' middle of the road"

[rastuscat]

A blow Jobs not an unreasonable request .....

....................if the officers name is Millicent............


Looking forward to stopping you one day Brian. You'll be disappointed at being turned down on the BJ, but we would both have a laugh.

[5t3a1F]

You are absolutely correct. You ARE mistaken.

You can ask for anything, including the officers birth certificate. You can even ask the officer to do 10 press ups. It's a question of what they HAVE to give you.

You are entitled to request documents pertaining to your case pursuant to the NZ Bill of Rights Act and the Privacy Act, but the right is not an immediate one. They have a "reasonable time" to comply, the courts normally think that 14 days is reasonable.

So there.

glad you got that of yer chest, although all you have managed to do is contradict yourself. you are saying that you ARE in fact entitled to that information, it's just the avenue of pursuit that is different.

anything to say regarding the laser being used through glass, or the ticketing officer having to be the one taking the reading, or do you only reply to posts were you can inflate your ego by showing us all how right YOU are?

so there

[Ronin]

So were BRONZ or MAG approached or comment on this story? Do they have anything to say?

[Brian d marge]

....................if the officers name is Millicent............


Looking forward to stopping you one day Brian. You'll be disappointed at being turned down on the BJ, but we would both have a laugh.

two speeding tickets in 10 years ,,,, you would probably make more money wearing Officer Magnificents dress

Stephen

[Toaster]

TV1 Close Up are advertising a programme comparing problems of aging motorcyclists with Boy Racers. I will be watching with interest

I would rather grow old riding my motorcycle than riding an armchair.

The media can kiss my kevlar bottom.

[SpeedMonger]

Just saw that close up program, what a pretzel that Mark Sainsbury is, his presentation is crap!

The Police section looked like a badly acted TV spoof comedy, I expected to see Benny Hill or Dick Emery appear at any minute!

What do you expect from a guy that looks like he's been buggered by a walrus. The only handlebars he's been near are the ones on his feckn face, [or his boyfriends].

I had to ride on the road edgeline on the way home tonight (100kph open road) as two oncoming vehicles encroached fully into my lane passing a road sweeper truck cleaning up after a reseal, but being a slightly aged motorcyclist it must have been MY fault.

[BIG DOUG]

Mark sainsbury is a motorcyclist he has a very tasty norton 650ss,hell I'm an aged motorcyclist but I never stopped riding from the day I got my licence,the interesting thing is the cop never asked how long any of the bike riders had been riding?

[shrub]

being a slightly aged motorcyclist it must have been MY fault.

Sadly that is the increasingly common viewpoint. If us motorcyclists refuse to attribute any blame on other road users, is it any wonder that the media and general public don't agree with us?

[rastuscat]

anything to say regarding the laser being used through glass, or the ticketing officer having to be the one taking the reading, or do you only reply to posts were you can inflate your ego by showing us all how right YOU are?

so there

OOOOoooooooooooooooooooo.....................diddu ms. Widdle Wastus upset widdle 5t3a1F did he?

Yes, lasers work through glass. It reduces the range, but then, the max range is over a km, and speeds are normally checked at far less than that.

No, the ticketing officer doesn't have to issue the ticket. But if you defend the ticket, the ticketing officer has to call the checking officer as a witness i.e. 2 cops having to give evidence. Not uncommon. One gives evidence of having checked the speed, the other of the drivers identification.

I only reply to posts to inflate my ego. My helmet is 2 cm too big, and I need all the help I can get.

So there.

[eelracing]

[dmc]

OOOOoooooooooooooooooooo.....................diddu ms. Widdle Wastus upset widdle 5t3a1F did he?

Yes, lasers work through glass. It reduces the range, but then, the max range is over a km, and speeds are normally checked at far less than that.

No, the ticketing officer doesn't have to issue the ticket. But if you defend the ticket, the ticketing officer has to call the checking officer as a witness i.e. 2 cops having to give evidence. Not uncommon. One gives evidence of having checked the speed, the other of the drivers identification.

I only reply to posts to inflate my ego. My helmet is 2 cm too big, and I need all the help I can get.

So there.

Aren't they only meant to be used at under 600m's and thats for car's, bikes are even harder to get a clear reading so I would think that it would have to be pretty close?
From what I have read they recommend not using lasers through glass, rain or dusty conditions as it can give false readings, they also seem to say heat haze can even screw them up. The issue I have with them is that you have to prove they are wrong when they should be proving you are, I think proof it has been tested before use with a trial run using a patrol car etc should have to be given at the time not fought for later.