Police interview - look out for motorbikes.

[Bonez]

Saw a sheila riding a Ninja on the Green Island motorway on Monday.

She had a nice black dress on

Most of it was bunched up around her waist..

Surely that should've prompted further investigation. For her own safety of course...............

[scumdog]

Surely that should've prompted further investigation. For her own safety of course...............

Sadly I had stopped a truck with an insecure load and in the opposite lane..

[cheshirecat]

Sadly I had stopped a truck with an insecure load and in the opposite lane..

Sad!......

[Edbear]

its like this really...

while everyone is praising the job the police are doing trying to herd the horses wouldnt it have been easier to lock the barn before it bolted?

Instead of spending fuck knows how much money preaching to the converted (who are the only ones who are really going to listen) why not take it back to the licence test and actually have compulsory training and proper testing before letting people drive/ride?

While I do agree the learning process needs to be improved, from most of the posts on KB it's not the newbies we need to target. They, by and large, are very well aware and seem to be quite sensible. The bikers causing the problems are the more experienced, older guys who should know better!

[Drew]

While I do agree the learning process needs to be improved, from most of the posts on KB it's not the newbies we need to target. They, by and large, are very well aware and seem to be quite sensible. The bikers causing the problems are the more experienced, older guys who should know better!

Appear quite sensible because they wear a flouro vest, and some armour?

For fuck sake, they dont have to have any real control of the bike to be let loose on the roads!

I'm not saying I don't need the protective stuff because I can handle a bike, but the two are completely separate issues. And neither are even slightly indicative of the other.

[Drew]

No, we don't actually collide with each other all that often - but that's more good luck than good management going by what I've seen on some group rides.

Group rides, there's kinda a different mind set for anyone on them though I think.

Trick is, get out in front and ya don't have to see the near carnage that follows.

[Edbear]

Appear quite sensible because they wear a flouro vest, and some armour?

For fuck sake, they dont have to have any real control of the bike to be let loose on the roads!

I'm not saying I don't need the protective stuff because I can handle a bike, but the two are completely separate issues. And neither are even slightly indicative of the other.

Every one has to start somewhere, but the stats show the age groups most involved in accidents, ACC claims, infringement notices, etc. it's not the newbies, mate...

[Big Dave]

from most of the posts on KB it's not the newbies we need to target. They, by and large, are very well aware and seem to be quite sensible. The bikers causing the problems are the more experienced, older guys who should know better!

Nah. Disagree.
Posts on KB have little relevance in the real world.

Under-skilled return-to-riders I would accept.

[Drew]

Every one has to start somewhere, but the stats show the age groups most involved in accidents, ACC claims, infringement notices, etc. it's not the newbies, mate...

I'd like to see some stats on what riding gear was being worn for all these accidents from the later demographic.

Then I'd like to see the number of repeat customers, stacked up before and after ACC stopped paying for replacement gear.

Where the fuck do ACC get off, actively fuckin educating us about the right gear when they decided THEMSELVES not to replace it for people involved in crashes.

[Edbear]

Nah. Disagree.
Posts on KB have little relevance in the real world.

Under-skilled return-to-riders I would accept.

But, but... KB is a paragon of virtue and reality isn't it...?

I agree that returnees are causing a few headaches, but it seems lately the one's killing themselves are also featured in the "experienced" group too often. Has anyone got the actual breakdown of the stats?

[Drew]

Under-skilled return-to-riders I would accept.

But how many of them are there really? They make up such a low percentage of the community.

Mind you, they are a minority so we should really pander to it.

[Drew]

But, but... KB is a paragon of virtue and reality isn't it...?

I agree that returnees are causing a few headaches, but it seems lately the one's killing themselves are also featured in the "experienced" group too often. Has anyone got the actual breakdown of the stats?

Of course 40-50 year olds are going to look worse in the stats, the average age of a biker in New Zealand was fuckin 40 not that long ago!

[Edbear]

I'd like to see some stats on what riding gear was being worn for all these accidents from the later demographic.

Then I'd like to see the number of repeat customers, stacked up before and after ACC stopped paying for replacement gear.

Where the fuck do ACC get off, actively fuckin educating us about the right gear when they decided THEMSELVES not to replace it for people involved in crashes.

I didn't think that was their role. Isn't that what insurance is for? Would you pay your ACC levies is they did replace gear?

When I had my accident personal effects were the responsibility of my insurance company, helping me live and recover, the responsibility of ACC.

I agree, I'd like a breakdown of the stats.

[BoristheBiter]

Of course 40-50 year olds are going to look worse in the stats, the average age of a biker in New Zealand was fuckin 40 not that long ago!

I would rather have the stats on the experience riders have.

[Big Dave]

My information is that the return-to rider injuries are a significant statistic - but I have no quantifiable data.

Ed, think scooter rider lane splitting in shorts and Jandals when you say noob.