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    Have seen 2 posts on here,
    1, states biker was speeding down the center line..spun car around.
    2, states bike hit car...
    can I ask where the above information came from guys?

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    I think anyone who has ridden a bike for a number of years (on the road) will have experienced the "sorry mate I didn't see you" scenario complete with an apologetic wave, a no eye contact hand up to say sorry or worse.

    Yes of course 'riding defensively' reduces our risk but accident will still happen.

    No doubt the bike haters and Katman will blame the bike rider but it would appear the bike simply wasn't seen in this instance. A terrible accident that in reality shouldn't of happened.

    Campaigns to raise awareness of motorcycles such as the "look once look twice think bike one" should be done again and bill boards around our streets reminding motorists of our vulnerability.

    ACC have managed to take a shed load more money of us to spend on rider safety so how about spending some of it to help us be less at risk from cars drivers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Google Looked But Failed To See.

    Also google inattention blindness.

    http://www.visualexpert.com/Resource...blindness.html
    An inappropriate but still relevant example of how what can be seen & what is recognized differ.

    I enjoy spearfishing / free diving & a few years ago I was descending in very clear blue water, quite happily. When I resurfaced, my buddy swam over & asked me why i did not take a shot. Shot at what? A dirty great Kingfish had been swimming just a few feet in front of my mask & I had not seen it.
    Because my eyes had nothing to fix on in the clear water, they had focused on the inside of my dive mask. I was effectively blind until I could see the bottom & gained some depth perspective. Damn freaky!
    It's not just looking, it's thinking. I had to teach myself to focus my eyes manually on blue water dives.

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    This is an interesting one seeing as roughly 8 odd months ago this happened to me on Remurewa Rd. I was riding the ninja at the time so bright green motorcycle, with headlight on etc etc etc. Guy pulled through traffic into his driveway 3-4m in front of me. Ended up doing a stoppie into the side of his Remurewa tractor (had the missus on the back so stayed on to try scrub off speed instead of looking to jump off) head first into his door with the girly bouncing off the roof...

    A months worth of headaches and still having some back problems and all he got was a $150 fine and 20 demerit points for failing to give way or something....

    So from that experience and reading this in the paper I can draw a couple of conclusions.

    1 - We as bikers tend to notice bikes a lot more on the road because we know where to look, you're average car driver doesn't and a lot of the time doesn't try. "If some big hulking 1200kg mass isn't coming down the road then it must be clear" seems to be the mindset. And the "oh I didn't see you" factor just doesn't cut it in my books.

    2 - From the mess of that bike I doubt he was doing the speed limit when whe vehicle pulled out on him. BE AWARE people are muppets. In built up areas especially full of impatient people and a lot of traffic this will happen to you so prepare for it. I thought I was prepared going just under 50 and looking for said offenders and a vehicle still did it to me and unfortunately a van blockign my vision of the offending vehicle as well as the gap put me up shit's creek prevention wise....

    3 - This has only been brought to the attention of the media due to a fatality. It happens all the time with cars pulling across motorcycles causing an accident. It is true there are people on bikes riding around like dicks with "bullet-proof" vests on, but the fact of the matter is that as a percentage of at fault incidents this is low.

    4- The punishment for drivers "NOT SEEING US" is definately not severe enough... A dangerous/careless driving charge should at least be attached if the driver was at fault


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    Quote Originally Posted by NONONO View Post
    Have seen 2 posts on here,
    1, states biker was speeding down the center line..spun car around.
    2, states bike hit car...
    can I ask where the above information came from guys?
    Must have come from those unreliable eyewitness's, the buggers.

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    Right...so...
    Fat bloke in the pub said.....
    No real evidence yet then..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    I vote a topless chick on all our bikes !!
    it would have to be a stationary bike - remember ATGATT imagine falling off and scraping the boobies....

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    No real evidence what so ever, I put car before the bike because, the car pulled out and the bike hit it? least I beleive thats what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aff-man View Post
    This is an interesting one seeing as roughly 8 odd months ago this happened to me on Remurewa Rd. I was riding the ninja at the time so bright green motorcycle, with headlight on etc etc etc. Guy pulled through traffic into his driveway 3-4m in front of me. Ended up doing a stoppie into the side of his Remurewa tractor (had the missus on the back so stayed on to try scrub off speed instead of looking to jump off) head first into his door with the girly bouncing off the roof...
    How could anyone not see a green Ninja - they stand out like dogs bollix

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    Quote Originally Posted by NONONO View Post
    Right...so...
    Fat bloke in the pub said.....
    No real evidence yet then..
    My customer was a witness at the scene, I spoke to him earlier today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    I vote a topless chick on all our bikes !!
    Does carver get a male stripper on his bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellokitty View Post
    it would have to be a stationary bike - remember ATGATT imagine falling off and scraping the boobies....
    I'm imagining kissing them better...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey View Post
    My customer was a witness at the scene, I spoke to him earlier today.
    Right...so if the Herald decides to look for a quote and finds your post (as they have done before on KB) all good, they have an eye witness statement which puts the rider at fault in this terrible thing before any details or facts known..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by aff-man View Post
    This is an interesting one seeing as roughly 8 odd months ago this happened to me on Remurewa Rd. I was riding the ninja at the time so bright green motorcycle, with headlight on etc etc etc. Guy pulled through traffic into his driveway 3-4m in front of me. Ended up doing a stoppie into the side of his Remurewa tractor (had the missus on the back so stayed on to try scrub off speed instead of looking to jump off) head first into his door with the girly bouncing off the roof...



    4- The punishment for drivers "NOT SEEING US" is definately not severe enough... A dangerous/careless driving charge should at least be attached if the driver was at fault


    Just my 2c

    Send his name and address to the Hell's Angels or Hwy61 and see if they have any prospects that need "exersizing". Do it half a dozen times, get some media coverage ,instant all cage drivers SEE bikes.(perceived threat) Regards Richard
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