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    "The New Zealand Road Assessment Programme, or Kiwirap, aims to reduce the number of fatal crashes by assessing risky roads and ways of fixing them."

    If there's no such thing as accidents, then there's no such things as risky roads. Sounds like more money down the wrong crapper...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
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    If an accident is caused by driver error/stupidity, thats called the fuckwit factor,and one less fuckwit on the roads (hopefully only taking themselves out though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Kiwirap, aims to reduce the number of fatal crashes by assessing risky roads and ways of fixing them.
    The main thrust seems to be deleting curves. And where that's a tad expensive to reduce the speed limits to the point you've got to set your alarm to wake every hour or two to dodge careening amoeba.
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    Remove the bends, and statistics will show more head ons.
    Travelling by modern vechiles is a complex and risky bussiness.
    The shear number of people using cars/trucks/motorbikes etc means a percentage will die in that group.
    The whole traffic policing format is flawed.MHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsasuper View Post
    If an accident is caused by driver error/stupidity, thats called the fuckwit factor,and one less fuckwit on the roads (hopefully only taking themselves out though)
    Sadly lately it seems after causing carnage they just walk away.Mind you we live in a country that sees fit to lower the driving age,give licences to people that cant speak English let alone read it, then theres the gaps between any meaningful tests for elderly drivers.
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    There should be a straight line highway down the length of the country.

    It would get a fair percentage off the scenic routes.

    Will we ever afford one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    The main thrust seems to be deleting curves. And where that's a tad expensive to reduce the speed limits to the point you've got to set your alarm to wake every hour or two to dodge careening amoeba.
    Pointless putting any of that cash towards drivers Ed or a real campaign to highlight the dangers of using the road. OMG, people might have to go and find curvey pieces of road elsewhere ...

    You can change the road, but you can''t change the driver... seems to be the attitude...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    There should be a straight line highway down the length of the country.
    They're called motorways. We don't have 'em, the things we call motorways are just roads.

    If we aspire to modern first world conditions there'd be two. North and South.
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    "People still have the view that crashes are accidents. There is no such thing as an accident ... "

    I have to disagree with this....yes there is usually fault and culpability....but very few "Crashes" are intentional. If it is un-intentional it is therefore accidental....although negligance is a factor... if you have a crash, and are liable, you can often be found negligent

    I had a crash a few years back, I stopped at a stop sign in a tropical down pour, I looked hard both ways and saw the road was clear and pulled out...and was collected by a dull grey car I failed to see. Yes I was liable and accepted that, but when I recieved a traffic infringment for failing to giveway, I argued the case...I did stop and look and then pulled out...I did not commit a crime or offence that warrants punishment, I had an honest accident...and I was let off. Cairns early 90's

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBD View Post
    "People still have the view that crashes are accidents. There is no such thing as an accident ... "

    I have to disagree with this

    I had a crash a few years back, I stopped at a stop sign in a tropical down pour, I looked hard both ways and saw the road was clear and pulled out...
    Well it wasnt eh,Tropical downpour etc (never been in one but if there as bad as they sound)and you took a chance which didnt come off,not having a crack fella but hardly an accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    There should be a straight line highway down the length of the country.

    It would get a fair percentage off the scenic routes.

    Will we ever afford one?
    wont fix a thing the single vehicle accidents will be head on instead.Divided two lanes wont happen
    People have to take proper care and attention.its that simple!

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    hmmm deleting corners is the last thing we need! bored,tired inattentive drivers! i say add corners and teach people how to drive finnish style! at least people would have an active involvement in driving
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I've forwarded that post on to the police.
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    I'd love to see the cause and location of the most frequented accident roads (as per the collective and personal stretches mentioned in the article).

    Head on crashes? -> Spend more money developing dual carriage ways and instaling concrete median barriers.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlangMaster
    I had a strange dream myself. You know that game some folk play on the streets where they toss coins at the wall and what not? In my dream they were tossing my semi hardened stool at the wall. I shit you not.

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