Yet another Coromandel fatality

[MSTRS:Me]

another assumption at this stage i'm afraid. until you have read an accident investigation report, or were there, you are completely unqualified to rule out environmental factors or mechanical failure.

only when we are able to state with certainty that it was solely caused by the rider should we be attributing blame.

True. But the reports I have seen quote cops saying he was overtaking another vehicle on that corner...

[blackdog]

True. But the reports I have seen quote cops saying he was overtaking another vehicle on that corner...

if that does turn out to be the case then string him up

i'm still a fan of innocent until proven guilty until all the evidence is available.

having said that, i've never heard of the cops jumping the gun or being mis-quoted

[scumdog]

... or being mis-quoted

Nope, 100% accurate reporting and no sensationalising is my experience with the media too...

[doc]

True. But the reports I have seen quote cops saying he was overtaking another vehicle on that corner...

But the cops always get it wrong according to Kb

[Quasievil]

This thread is stoopid and pointless

[scumdog]

This thread is stoopid and pointless

Hmmmmm, so are a shitload of other threads on KB.

But that is KB for ya!

[terbang]

Well if it gets people thinking about how they next ride Coro, then it isn't entirely pointless.

[Scouse]

That is not what I mean, it was a generalization, not saying anyone was at fault, thats not my way! EDIT: I feel for both riders... no accident is blameless, how do two vehicles collide on two seperate lanes, they don't someone had to make a mistake, and that was it ... a mistake sadly!

I would'nt worry about it Tink he is a retard and most peoples posts get lost in his own little translation. even guilty of contradicting himself.

[phill-k]

Definition of accident - •An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects

In the case of the killed / murdered rider his was an accident although he may have mitigated that by not riding to the conditions - or staying of a crowded mad road.

The surviving rider / killer / murderer, his situation may also have been an accident although how often do we see the results of the police investigation showing circumstances beyond control - mechanical failure or some such. I'd bet we will see it was his stupidity that caused this.

The police campaign on speed will never work, because if you look at the holiday deaths many of them are the result of brain dead drivers / parents / Darwinists.

[steve_t]

Definition of accident - •An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place, without apparent or deliberate cause but with marked effects

In the case of the killed / murdered rider his was an accident although he may have mitigated that by not riding to the conditions - or staying of a crowded mad road.

The surviving rider / killer / murderer, his situation may also have been an accident although how often do we see the results of the police investigation showing circumstances beyond control - mechanical failure or some such. I'd bet we will see it was his stupidity that caused this.

The police campaign on speed will never work, because if you look at the holiday deaths many of them are the result of brain dead drivers / parents / Darwinists.

LOL. U copied and pasted the definition of accident, but didn't bother to look up definition of murder

[phill-k]

LOL. U copied and pasted the definition of accident, but didn't bother to look up definition of murder

I'm not much concerned in the legal definition, but taking someones life through your own testosterone fueled tight nuts might be by some deemed an accident but you are in control of your right wrist so in my eyes its murder, nothing less.

Read an article to-day where they were talking about mandatory prison sentencing for people that don't stop for the police, at long last if its true perhaps we will begin to get on top of the fucktards in this country who disrespect my rights to travel on our roads safely. Add to this assault on a police officer and perhaps we might as a country be seen to actually support these guys.

My point of the post was we need to stop calling these road homicides accidents and accept them for what they really are

[DIN PELENDA]

Fuck you bitches still going on !!!

[phill-k]

Fuck you bitches still going on !!!

Your signature sums it up mate, through probable stupidity the mans breath was surely taken away.

[steve_t]

I'm not much concerned in the legal definition, but taking someones life through your own testosterone fueled tight nuts might be by some deemed an accident but you are in control of your right wrist so in my eyes its murder, nothing less.

Read an article to-day where they were talking about mandatory prison sentencing for people that don't stop for the police, at long last if its true perhaps we will begin to get on top of the fucktards in this country who disrespect my rights to travel on our roads safely. Add to this assault on a police officer and perhaps we might as a country be seen to actually support these guys.

My point of the post was we need to stop calling these road homicides accidents and accept them for what they really are

I think you'll find there's already a term - vehicular manslaughter. BUT I agree with your sentiment. As others have said before, we need to change the view of our licences making it more clear that having a licence is a privilege and not a right. In saying this, how many people are on Motorway Patrol etc driving without licences at all or disqualified?!

[reemit]

My point of the post was we need to stop calling these road homicides accidents and accept them for what they really are

'dangerous driving causing death' or 'manslaughter'.