Buy from NZ? I tried but come on...

[Robert Taylor]

I think Viscount Montgomery did cause he's an angry sounding fucker

Well there are people that offer something and then there are those who delight in being deliberately obnoxious.

[Crazy Steve]

Hi my name is Steve, I have in the past spent $100,000's at Nz Motorcycle shops.

Now I spend NOTHING at Nz Bike shops.

Goodbye NZ bike shops....Colemans next pleeease ! !

Crazy Steve.

[Coldrider]

The problem is any tom dick and/or harry who is basically unemployable can import goods and mark them up 200% or whatever they decide the market may stand, and basically say they say they are in business propping up the back bone of the country for the want of nothing better to do with their time, but whinge when they find out that their business model is full of misjudgements and out of step with time when private individuals can get on the WWW and add value to goods themselves by purchasing them on someone elses business model and pricing structure that actually works.

[Robert Taylor]

Hi my name is Steve, I have in the past spent $100,000's at Nz Motorcycle shops.

Now I spend NOTHING at Nz Bike shops.

Goodbye NZ bike shops....Colemans next pleeease ! !

Crazy Steve.

Let everyone remind you of that if in the future there is a massive exchange rate shift where our dollar becomes very weak against $US. Such events really challenge peoples publicly stated buying preferences and it proves that its all about the end price, no matter if its offered by a company in the US or a company in NZ..............................................Li fe is full of hypocrisies.

[Ocean1]

I invited my dealer to import the parts himself.

Sounds semi-familliar. Couple of years ago I had occasion to track down a particular part, (this was business related, rather than personal). Price was US$208.00, to my door.

There were transport insurance issues though, so I called two local agents, pointed them at the US supplier and asked them for quotes.

One was NZ$1680.00 and the other was NZ$1645.00 plus local delivery. "What do I get with the extra $1200.00" I asked. The answer was basically: "Fuck all". That was just the price they'd been expecting, (and getting) locally for that part.

I did spend considerably more than I'd originally planned. I caused a container full to arrive. One of the local guys is gone as a direct result.

If you're going to try to openly shaft me you'd better be standing behind some pretty watertight protection.

[Crazy Steve]

Let everyone remind you of that if in the future there is a massive exchange rate shift where our dollar becomes very weak against $US. Such events really challenge peoples publicly stated buying preferences and it proves that its all about the end price, no matter if its offered by a company in the US or a company in NZ..............................................Li fe is full of hypocrisies.

Sorry Mr Taylor I don't know what your going on about ?

My point is clear I HAVE BEEN ARSE RAPED FAR TO MUCH BY DEALER'S...

And I refuse to be arse raped again and again...It causes far to much pain !

And I still get no fckin service ! !

Crazy Steve.

[Blackflagged]

Most dealers don`t offer that service, special request, or may be it`s just K`rd?

[Robert Taylor]

Sorry Mr Taylor I don't know what your going on about ?

My point is clear I HAVE BEEN ARSE RAPED FAR TO MUCH BY DEALER'S...

And I refuse to be arse raped again and again...It causes far to much pain !

And I still get no fckin service ! !

Crazy Steve.

I think there is a danger of being oversimplistic when in fact there are many complex factors. One of those ( of many ) being the affect of exchange rate. There are good dealers out there.

[Robert Taylor]

Most dealers don`t offer that service, special request, or may be it`s just K`rd?

So are we talking Auckland? As Im aware most of the population resides outside of Auckland? Im not being anti Auckland or whatever, just stating the obvious.

[Maha]

Hi my name is Steve, I have in the past spent $100,000's at Nz Motorcycle shops.
Crazy Steve.

I HAVE BEEN ARSE RAPED FAR TO MUCH BY DEALER'S...
And I refuse to be arse raped again and again...
Crazy Steve.

You paid $100,000's.....for this service?

[rwh]

I think there is a danger of being oversimplistic when in fact there are many complex factors. One of those ( of many ) being the affect of exchange rate. There are good dealers out there.

That exchange rate applies to both private and commercial imports, doesn't it?

Richard

[Mully Clown]

I'll do some research later but does anyone happen to know which bike manufacturers supply directly into NZ?

Looks something like this.

Triumph New Zealand Ltd - no relation
Aeon
Aprilia
Cagiva
Gas Gas
Gilera
Husqvarna
Keeway
MotoGuzzi
MV Agusta
PGO
Piaggio
SYM
Triumph
Vespa

BMW New Zealand Ltd - owned by the BMW
BMW

Harley-Davidson Australia Pty Ltd - not sure if it's part of the mothership
Harley Davidson
Buell

BRP Australia Pty Ltd - looks to be the BRP
Can-am

Ducati NF Importers NZ Ltd - Australia based
Ducati

Blue Wing Honda - the one this thread is about, no relation to Honda.
Honda Motorcycles

KTM NEW ZEALAND LIMITED - 1/4 owned by KTM Austria
KTM
Husaberg

Lyntec Holdings Ltd
Kawasaki

Lifan Motorcycles (NZ) Ltd - NZ owned
Lifan

Polaris Sales New Zealand - directors are Australia/US
Polaris (which I guess means Victory as well)

Suzuki New Zealand Ltd - owned by Suzuki Japan
Suzuki

Yamaha Motor NZ Ltd - owned by Australia, not sure if part of actual Yamaha
Yamaha


Info harvested from the following:
http://www.mia.org.nz/
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/
individual manufacturer websites


I guess the question is whether or not there is better consumer feedback from brands with manufacturer investment or not.

[Smifffy]

I think there is a danger of being oversimplistic when in fact there are many complex factors. One of those ( of many ) being the affect of exchange rate. There are good dealers out there.

So are you suggesting that when the exchange rate crashes, the NZ price from local dealers (assuming they are still in business) will remain more or less stable?

Just as the dealer prices for parts have plummeted with low inflation and a strong dollar in recent years?

[ukusa]

at the end of the day (love that saying), price point (for same product/brand) would be the biggest factor in peoples decisions on where to buy. Otherwise Pak n Save would have no customers.
For every 10 seat cowls sold by Honda dealers her in NZ at $600, there's probably another 30 purchased overseas at $210. If the price was a little lower, say only $300, they may very well double their sales.
(disclaimer, figures made up for example purposes only, but you get the gist)

[scumdog]

at the end of the day (love that saying), price point (for same product/brand) would be the biggest factor in peoples decisions on where to buy. Otherwise Pak n Save would have no customers.
For every 10 seat cowls sold by Honda dealers her in NZ at $600, there's probably another 30 purchased overseas at $210. If the price was a little lower, say only $300, they may very well double their sales.
(disclaimer, figures made up for example purposes only, but you get the gist)

True.

But with helmets, boots, pants etc?

I'd rather have the option of saying 'oops, they don't fit' etc.

Hard to do THAT over the internet eh..