Unwarranted motorcyclist clocked at 204 km/h

[Headbanger]

Mandatory minimum hours with professional instruction sounds good. Are there any arguments against having this?

The fuckup is that instead of keeping the poor and stupid off our roads we would just set up massive tax payer provided slush funds to ensure the shitheads get the support needed to pass, No doubt a secondary support system would be created for the special ones with brown skin, then the standards would be lowered when it was discovered more maori were failing then anyone else, as this clearly would show the system was racist.

The reparations would cost billions, our roads would still be full of cunts, we would be poorer, and a small group would have all our fucking money.


FUCK.

[mashman]

Ask dr Lamb

Fact mate whether we like it or not, we are far more exposed to serious injury if/when it turns tits up, in serious crashes at highway speeds.
It was at his presntation these factors were dialled down, and there are just some scenario's we will always lose and crashes at speed on a public road is one of them.

Its not based on % of road users its based on reallity as far as 'more likley to be hurt'...size of fleet is irrelevant, as is number of incidents to ALL vehicles, cant compare apples with pears man

We are far more exposed, I'd have to be insane to deny it and I don't doubt it for a minute, and I certainly wouldn't restrict our vulnerability to speed alone (i can die doing 30)... that is the reality I accept every time I throw my leg over the Prila... I can get wiped at a T junction. Do T junctions kill people in cars?

You cannot compare bike injuries to cars on mere numbers of incidents accross all vehicle classes, thats just using math to fool yourself bro.

Why not? They are injuries that have happened on the same roads... it's the human that's at "fault", not the vehicle. A vehicle doesn't crash itself does it?

And to parrot... Out of ALL of the incidents on ALL of the roads in the country, the roads that morotcyclists and cars share , 78% of the total injuries for 2009 were cars and their inhabitants FACT... figures published by Transport. How am I fooling myself with that math? It is a FACT. (Or are you projecting denial jokin mate.)

I'm using the same roads as everyone else, just a different mode of transport to the masses. Please read the 1st paragraph before telling me i'm dreamin... I AM FULLY AWARE OF THE RISKS... i'll stick with the bike ta if the alternative is being one of the 78%, however silly that seems to some

You have to compare how bad the people are hurt and once at highway speed we do get hurt far worse as a rule when it goes to shit

We're not going to agree unless you can convince me otherwise, but with 78% of the injuries being caused in cars, you'll have your work cut out. (potentially 78% of ACC costs too )... a serious injury is a serious injury irrespective of vehicle type and/or risk. That is a FACT.

[FJRider]

The fuckup is that instead of keeping the poor and stupid off our roads we would just set up massive tax payer provided slush funds to ensure the shitheads get the support needed to pass, No doubt a secondary support system would be created for the special ones with brown skin, then the standards would be lowered when it was discovered more maori were failing then anyone else, as this clearly would show the system was racist.

The reparations would cost billions, our roads would still be full of cunts, we would be poorer, and a small group would have all our fucking money.


FUCK.

Too close to what could be percieved as the truth ... by some ...

Your initials aren't PC ... are they ???? nahhh thought as much ...

[Smifffy]

. Incidentally that was just nudging 170km/h.

In normal traffic conditions on normal roads and weather I am cautious to a fault and wouldn't have gone fast with anyone else on pillion either, and not if my wife hadn't both wanted to and been the kind of pillion she is...

I had the Moll on pillion hooning around Manfeild on the C50T - that was kinda cool!

[Edbear]

I had the Moll on pillion hooning around Manfeild on the C50T - that was kinda cool!

My wife wouldn't like that, she hates the sound of the warning-knobs scraping in the corners! She hits me when I do that... LOL!!! I could scrape the toes of my boots on the GSX-F though as she couldn't hear that...

[FJRider]

My wife wouldn't like that, she hates the sound of the warning-knobs scraping in the corners! She hits me when I do that... LOL!!! I could scrape the toes of my boots on the GSX-F though as she couldn't hear that...

Thats because they're YOUR boots .... and I reckon she would have felt them touch ground ...

[Smifffy]

Perhaps another thing to think about, if the road was straight, and the bike was going like a bullet, and his bike was in reasonable condition but not warrented, (all reasonable assumptions) the chances of a biker hitting somebody else are minimal unless the other driver cocks up, and if they cock up, the inertia of a bike hitting em at 200, is still less than a car at 100.

The momentum would indeed be similar, perhaps even less, as:

p(momentum) = m(mass) x v(velocity)

However the kinetic energy would be much greater, since that increases exponentially with speed (as a square actually)

Viz:

E(k) (Kinetic energy) = 1/2 m(mass) x V^2 (velocity x velocity)

Some geeky guy that I used to watch on tv once said:

"Ye cannae change the laws of physics Jim"

He was hard core.

Would you rather be hit by a 1kg object at 10 km/h

or

a 0.1 kg object at 100 km/h?

Not everything in life is linear.

[Smifffy]

AND the roads they do those speeds on tend to be better than ours - and with centre-dividers too...

So then it isn't the speed that kills, but the inferior roads without centre-dividers?

[Smifffy]

The fuckup is that instead of keeping the poor and stupid off our roads we would just set up massive tax payer provided slush funds to ensure the shitheads get the support needed to pass

FUCK.

Better than that, we even pay the poor & stupid to breed....

[Big Dave]

"Ye cannae change the laws of physics Jim"

Not everything in life is linear.

I prefer bent (in a non-gay, not that there's anything wrong with that) absurd kinda way.

[scumdog]

So then it isn't the speed that kills, but the inferior roads without centre-dividers?

Nah, the speed never kills - it's the impact of the unplanned stop that does it.

But it's easier for idjits if you just tell them 'speed kills'

And it's not just the roads that are inferior, the riders and drivers are too....

[bogan]

The momentum would indeed be similar, perhaps even less, as:

p(momentum) = m(mass) x v(velocity)

However the kinetic energy would be much greater, since that increases exponentially with speed (as a square actually)

Viz:

E(k) (Kinetic energy) = 1/2 m(mass) x V^2 (velocity x velocity)

Some geeky guy that I used to watch on tv once said:

"Ye cannae change the laws of physics Jim"

He was hard core.

Would you rather be hit by a 1kg object at 10 km/h

or

a 0.1 kg object at 100 km/h?

Not everything in life is linear.

fair enuf, but double velocity = 4x kenetic energy, but a bike and rider is around a quarter of the mass of a car, so it's pretty much the same.

[Smifffy]

And it's not just the roads that are inferior, the riders and drivers are too....

I am sure you have seen some slack-jawed hicks in Dakota struggling their way along the roads at 70-80 MPH.

The condition of some of their vehicles is terrifying too...

But they ain't dead yet.

[bogan]

But it's easier for idjits if you just tell them 'speed kills'

And it's not just the roads that are inferior, the riders and drivers are too....

I know right, and it sucks that the only possible way to make driver and riders better, is to mislead them, then use that misleading campaign to justify user taxation.

[Grasshopperus]

does anyone recognise the photo ahhh the media

Revisionism in NZ.

We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia.