Wellington Wednesday Night Cruisy Summer Rides (TCWNR) 2010-2011

[ajturbo]

.surprised no one took me aside and shot me!

your so friggin small.. the linch mob couldn't find ya..!!

[Hawkeye]

Hawkeye you are displaying the attitude of the typical knob, that is the problem on a Wednesday night.
You are there riding an unfamiliar bike so rethink your place in the pecking order and you will not get passed.
Why should every rider follow "you" as you wobble and weave over the hill on an unfamiliar bike.

I know you will poo poo the idea of pecking order, but this simple shuffle is seamlessly performed on a "Thursday night"
We understand our abilities and once in order seldom is there a bike on bike pass going over the hill.

All the Wednesday night riders need to do is think about who is riding around you when you arrive at the destination.
Simply set out, in this same order. You will be amongst riders of similar ability and unlikely to get caught up in a shuffle on the hill.
Unfamiliar bike drop back a few places until you are comfortable... too hard it would seem.
If you leave early on the return leg and another rider catches you up, simply be courteous move to the left of the lane,
momentously slow a little and simply let them file thru. Fark is this too hard ! seemingly for some it is.

Stain,
I have no issues with bikes passing me on the hill. It's how they do it. And whilst they may be comfortable in close passing manouvers, they need to think of the other riders. Twice on Wed night, I was set up to pass. But as I was about to go, faster riders cut me up and forced me to hit the brakes and pull left.

I've ridden with the Wed ride enough to know my own capabilities and where I fit in the group. and I'm quite happy to move to the left when faster bikes come up behind.
We all want to have fun out there. I just want to know that any incidents I have are my own doing not because one or two not so regular riders think they need to show how big their balls are. That only leads to mayhem.

It isn't a race track and there are no prizes for getting there first. (but it's a long at the bar if your last ).

And it was not so much an unfamiliar bike. I use the CB for commuting most day's so ride it regular. More a lack of the acceleration of the CB compared to the Katana to get passed things. So I needed to plan that little bit longer before passing.

[sinfull]

Interesting read !

The cornering issues some of ya are having (preferring left over right) sure we all have our prefferences but am wondering how many have measured swing arm pivot bolt to rear axle bolt to get that dead true and then check wheel allignment ? Can make a difference !
Doesn't apply to your bike of course Dave lol single sided and all, but your pitching under brakes would be a worry, ya prob know, but thats the wheel base shortening under brakes and when ya release it extends again making ya run wide, unless your hard on the brakes i'm thinkin ya front may be a bit soft and perhaps rebounding too quick if its causing ya to move off line that much ?
Sounds like a good opportunity for shaun Harris and Kerry Dukie to have a bit of a suspension day some time ???

As for the group riding and dodgy shit, Ya don't see me on em aye lol
Takes quite a few miles for a group to sort out how each individual rides, when they will hesitate , when you to know they won't, what position in the order each rider should place him/herself ! A group like you guys have where new riders are coming each week would be too scary for this old fella, have to stay miles away at the back for fear of runnin up some noobs arse or have him run up mine !
The social side of it all sounds fantastic but it just aint worth the effort, if i wanna swap paint with someone i'll go to the race track !

[Gone Burger]

We understand our abilities and once in order seldom is there a bike on bike pass going over the hill.

That's why I am always one of the last to leave the duck pond, and also Featherston. Although I am faster on the straights and highway than some back with me, I know that come the hill, if any of them are behind me, I move aside and let them through as soon as possible, knowing that I am going to be holding them up. I think they always apprecaite it too?

Hey Leber - that was fun fun ride back over the hill - Was I holding you up Mr? I seemed to be having a much better ride than I have had in a long time and was simply loving it! Cheers for playing, again

[Hawkeye]

Interesting read !


As for the group riding and dodgy shit, Ya don't see me on em aye lol
Takes quite a few miles for a group to sort out how each individual rides, when they will hesitate , when you to know they won't, what position in the order each rider should place him/herself ! A group like you guys have where new riders are coming each week would be too scary for this old fella, have to stay miles away at the back for fear of runnin up some noobs arse or have him run up mine !
The social side of it all sounds fantastic but it just aint worth the effort, if i wanna swap paint with someone i'll go to the race track !

My sentiments exactly Sinfull. When I ride with the regulars, I know who I want in front of me and who I'm happy to have behind. It's the unknowns that I'm concerned about.
There are also a number of the faster guys who are slow on the take off from the duckpond, as they know they will catch up easily. You know the ones I mean. the ones that take that last couple of drags on the ciggie whilst the group is already leaving. This however has an impact on the slower guy's as they end up getting passed on the hill.

[spacemonkey]

Apologies if I put the willy's up anyone

Yeah I've heard you Honda riders have an unpleasent habit of putting willys up people.

[White trash]

Yeah I've heard you Honda riders have an unpleasent habit of putting willys up people.

Beaten to it by a better man......

[mattathm]

Attitude of the typical knob, that is the problem on a Wednesday night.
Rethink your place in the pecking order and you will not get passed.
This simple shuffle is seamlessly performed on a "Thursday night"
We understand our abilities and once in order seldom is there a bike on bike pass going over the hill.

All the Wednesday night riders need to do is think about who is riding around you when you arrive at the destination.
Simply set out, in this same order. You will be amongst riders of similar ability and unlikely to get caught up in a shuffle on the hill.
Unfamiliar bike drop back a few places until you are comfortable... too hard it would seem.
If you leave early on the return leg and another rider catches you up, simply be courteous move to the left of the lane, momentously slow a little and simply let them file thru.

We all come together for riding enjoyment, with different riding and cornering abilities.
These do not need to be hindered in a group ride situation, if simple ability and experience are applied to the ride order.

here here....!!

And for the thursday ride as well going from someones last nights rant... but thats another story.

Its not a race, but if another bike is following too close, let them past.
We all have licences and all know the road rules, It is not an organised ride but only an organised meeting place, what happens after that, your all on your own.

Those people that dont come riding because of what happens in a group ride, shouldnt be riding at all, take the car, group rides are what you make of them.
I know some pretty amature riders that come on the group rides that have a ball of a time, and keep coming back for more.

Thursday riders make their own pecking order... ie you dont leave the duck pond first unless you plan to stay in that position.
As for the wednesday riders, you all know your own riding ability and the ability of your bike which is probably more than your riding ability so ride to your ability.

If someone does do something not to your liking have a word to them at the pub or wherever you end up or take note and dont ride by them again... its pretty simple
We are all there to have a good time so lets do that!!

[John_H]

That's why I am always one of the last to leave the duck pond, and also Featherston. Although I am faster on the straights and highway than some back with me, I know that come the hill, if any of them are behind me, I move aside and let them through as soon as possible, knowing that I am going to be holding them up. I think they always apprecaite it too?

Hey Leber - that was fun fun ride back over the hill - Was I holding you up Mr? I seemed to be having a much better ride than I have had in a long time and was simply loving it! Cheers for playing, again

I have no problem moving aside for faster bikes and I don't believe there is an issue with this ride either, for the most part it is incident free and I have a blast, just on this occasion I wasn't given the opportunity to move over and I want my attention on my cornering mid bend rather than who's trying to overtake me and will it cause an accident. As I say, this is an isolated incident which gave me the shits at the time, in hindsight I probably created waves here where they weren't necessary by ranting about it. As long as riders respect each other and egos don't stop people moving over it should run smoothly.

My main issue is constantly being held up by Bryce (stain) as he's so slow and doesn't want to move over for us more experienced riders, sort it out old man

[Gone Burger]

My main issue is constantly being held up by Bryce (stain) as he's so slow and doesn't want to move over for us more experienced riders, sort it out old man

Yeah Bryce... Next time would ya let me pass please? hahahaha - I tried to let you past, you weren't having a bar of it

[Dodgy]

Agree with Matt entirely.

If you are holding someone up, move to the left. If you want to pass someone, do it cleanly and in a safe manner - as you would wish to be passed.

The FJ squid boat is a particularly useless piece of turd over the hill, so I stuck somewhere in the middle rather than try to run over my head and get in the way. Ah... the laptop in the rack pack wouldnt take too much punishment anyway.

Only concern that I had was the harley softcock who was quite aggro, but I guess that he had his own issues...

other than that, choose your own pace and ride to your own ability. You may happen to find a buddy who is riding at around the same pace, so go and enjoy that experience rather than trying to ride at a pace that is uncomfortable or unsafe for you.

[Ocean1]

I know that come the hill, if any of them are behind me, I move aside and let them through as soon as possible, knowing that I am going to be holding them up.

Didn't see you on the hill KP, but I know you left the pub just after me and going by the time you passed me at the gas station there’s no worry about you holding too many people up.

My main issue is constantly being held up by Bryce (stain) as he's so slow and doesn't want to move over for us more experienced riders, sort it out old man

Give him a break, dude. If he’s anything like me his eyesight’s deteriorated to the point he can’t see anything in his mirrors.

[_STAIN_]

Yeah Bryce... Next time would ya let me pass please? hahahaha - I tried to let you past, you weren't having a bar of it

Katie, between the sparks and you hangin your butt out there was no way I was changing my pecking order

[mattathm]

Katie, between the sparks and you hangin your butt out there was no way I was changing my pecking order

Like!

[Gone Burger]

Katie, between the sparks and you hangin your butt out there was no way I was changing my pecking order

You crack me up. Actually, to be honest, havent had such a good run up there in a very very long time. Even got the pipes down on the ground. Felt gooooood as I wasn't backing off as much as I usually do. Just gotta watch my lines going down ay Stain? Will work on that, thanks xx