Government group wants GST at 17.5%

**mashman** · 1st February 2011, 10:18

seriously WTF do they think they're going to achieve. Is life not financially hard enough for people?

Can someone tell me what the $ value of NZ's public debt is please? Not the percentage of GDP, the actual $ figure?

**Gibbo89** · 1st February 2011, 10:51

The discussion at the bottom of the link is interesting

**EJK** · 1st February 2011, 10:55

No way man.

**mashman** · 1st February 2011, 11:01

Originally Posted by Gibbo89

The discussion at the bottom of the link is interesting

i got bored with the same names throwing the usual political shit at each other without considering the issue... kinda like KB bit with limited "character" space

. I'm still stunned that people expect a decent society without having to pay for it (income tax, not goods)... unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it and as people refuse to pay decent salaries, the debt will rise, both ends of the financial spectrum will take and nothing will eve get sorted out... We'd be better off being a policed state, at least you could guarantee consistency

**marie_speeds** · 1st February 2011, 11:15

The problem with the last GST increase is by the time it got down the line to the end consumers the increase was not 2.5% but in some cases had reached up to 7.5% and higher as each person in the supply link added it on. If these idiot consultants honestly think that increasing it even further is going to "help" me save they all seriously have a screw loose or need one to help them think

Burn them all I say....

**onearmedbandit** · 1st February 2011, 11:17

It was said by Guy Esponer that it was very unlikely that the Government will adopt the recommendation. He also claimed that the head of the report stated that the average NZ'er does not earn enough to increase their savings, despite a need for an increase of personal saving of $5b, an average of $1000 for every NZer.

**Oscar** · 1st February 2011, 12:51

Catch 22

If the Govt. has a working group and keeps it secret, the conspiracy theorists work overtime. If it is open and above board, their recommendations causes consternation amongst the twittering classes.

This is one recommendation of many, but due to it's Headline-worthy nature, it is the one that will be reported.

**Smifffy** · 1st February 2011, 14:00

Originally Posted by Oscar

Catch 22

If the Govt. has a working group and keeps it secret, the conspiracy theorists work overtime. If it is open and above board, their recommendations causes consternation amongst the twittering classes.

This is one recommendation of many, but due to it's Headline-worthy nature, it is the one that will be reported.

That's why they need a working group whose members are not fucked in the head.

**Banditbandit** · 1st February 2011, 14:15

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

It was said by Guy Esponer that it was very unlikely that the Government will adopt the recommendation. He also claimed that the head of the report stated that the average NZ'er does not earn enough to increase their savings, despite a need for an increase of personal saving of $5b, an average of $1000 for every NZer.

Dickheads .. by lowering tax rates they are increasing the size of our pay packets and by increasing GST they are discouraging us from spending the increased money - saving the extra money instead ...

But then they admit, with the same breath, that the average kiwi can't afford to save anyway ....

Jeez - the neo-liberals can't get any dumber can they?

Originally Posted by Smifffy

That's why they need a working group whose members are not fucked in the head.

All working party memebrs are fucked in the head - you have to be to get on one ...

**Smifffy** · 1st February 2011, 14:22

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Jeez - the neo-liberals can't get any dumber can they?

All working party memebrs are fucked in the head - you have to be to get on one ...

It also aids selection if they have nothing else better to do.

**SMOKEU** · 1st February 2011, 14:55

In NZ we get ripped off enough as it is for just about everything (not just by the government, but it all adds up) so we really don't need any more taxes.